netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] remove netpoll rx support

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Date:	Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:09:31 -0400 (EDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	ebiederm@...ssion.com
Cc:	eric.dumazet@...il.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	xiyou.wangcong@...il.com, mpm@...enic.com, satyam.sharma@...il.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] remove netpoll rx support

From: ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:48:30 -0700

> David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> writes:
> 
>> From: ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:43:10 -0700
>>
>>> Furthermore netpoll by it's design depends on the ability to receive
>>> packets in netpoll_poll_dev.  It is a capability I don't think we have
>>> ever used in the mainline kernel but it is a capability that is there
>>> deliberately.  Which means if we want netpoll to not mess with the rx
>>> path we need to change netpoll.
>>
>> This breaks kdump, and any other users of netpoll_rx() et al.
> 
> It does not break kdump.  (kdump starts a new kernel to do it's work). 
> 
> It does break the ancient lkcd netdump that was never merged, and has
> been abandoned (to the best of my knowledge). crash dumps proved
> entirely too fragile to perform from a broken kernel.

I feel like I've mixed this up in the past, multiple times, thanks
for the sanity check.

>> Make the zero budget depend upon us being invoked from hardware
>> irq context, or something like that.
> 
> Good enough.  I will respin my driver patches based on the assumption
> that netpoll will be changed in this way.  There are no dependencies
> for the drivers, I just need to remove my rx path changes.
> 
> We can have the conversation about how to change netpoll in parallel.

Sounds great.
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