netdev - Re: [PATCH] net-tun: restructure tun_do_read for better sleep/wakeup efficiency

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Date:	Tue, 13 May 2014 14:15:25 +0800
From:	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
CC:	Xi Wang <xii@...gle.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Maxim Krasnyansky <maxk@....qualcomm.com>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@...gle.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net-tun: restructure tun_do_read for better sleep/wakeup
 efficiency

On 05/12/2014 02:15 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 11:10:43AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> > On 05/09/2014 02:22 AM, Xi Wang wrote:
>>> > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> On 05/07/2014 08:24 AM, Xi Wang wrote:
>>>>> > >>> tun_do_read always adds current thread to wait queue, even if a packet
>>>>> > >>> is ready to read. This is inefficient because both sleeper and waker
>>>>> > >>> want to acquire the wait queue spin lock when packet rate is high.
>>>> > >> After commit 61a5ff15ebdab87887861a6b128b108404e4706d, this will only
>>>> > >> help for blocking read. Looks like for performance critical userspaces,
>>>> > >> they will use non blocking reads.
>>>>> > >>> We restructure the read function and use common kernel networking
>>>>> > >>> routines to handle receive, sleep and wakeup. With the change
>>>>> > >>> available packets are checked first before the reading thread is added
>>>>> > >>> to the wait queue.
>>>> > >> This is interesting, since it may help if we want to add rx busy loop
>>>> > >> for tun. (In fact I worked a similar patch like this).
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes this should be a good side effect and I am also interested in trying.
>>> > > Busy polling in user space is not ideal as it doesn't give the lowest latency.
>>> > > Besides differences in interrupt latency etc., there is a bad case for
>>> > > non blocking mode: When a packet arrives right before the polling thread
>>> > > returns to userspace. The control flow has to cross kernel/userspace
>>> > > boundary 3 times before the packet can be processed, while kernel
>>> > > blocking or busy polling only needs 1 boundary crossing.
>> > 
>> > So if we want to implement this, we need a feature bit to turn it on.
>> > Then vhost may benefit from this.
> IFF_TUN_POLL_BUSY_LOOP ? I'm not sure it has to be
> a flag. Maybe an ioctl is better, if userspace
> misconfigures this it is only hurting itself, right?

Flag has the same effect. But adding new ioctls means userspace needs to
be modified. This is different with current rx busy polling for tcp/udp
socket which is transparent to userspace application.
> Maybe add a module parameter to control polling timeout,
> or reuse low_latency_poll.
>

If we don't need a global parameter, we can just implement it without
generic helper like __skb_recv_datagram().
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