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Date:	Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:03:37 -0700
From:	John Fastabend <>
To:	Sharat Masetty <>
CC:	Linux Netdev List <>,
	David Miller <>
Subject: Re: Multiqueue TX

On 07/28/2014 03:37 PM, Sharat Masetty wrote:
> Hi David,
> Can you please answer my question when you get a chance?
> Regards,
> Sharat

Little patience ;) Monday's are always a bit busy.

> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Sharat Masetty <> wrote:
>> I have a question from this David's nice presentation
>> on multiqueue TX. My
>> questions are on the slide named "PICTURE WITH NON-TRIVIAL QDISC"
>> 1)  What is the rationale behind such an arrangement, where one would
>> have multiple TX queues pointing to the on single Qdisc?

The simplest example is to take a look at sch_tbf and try to work out
how we could rate limit a device. Here you have a single qdisc being
used for all TX queues. HTB as you note below is another example.

How would you propose creating rate limits across entire interfaces
without a single Qdisc.

Its ongoing work to create queuing disciplines that don't bottleneck
on the qdisc lock and distribute the state.

>> 2)  If the Qdisc in this illustration was a non trivial Qdisc such as
>> htb, which has multiple leaf Qdisc's, how would the traffic shaping be
>> preserved?

Not sure I follow. Using HTB as a root qdisc on an interface works the
same if the interface has 1 queue or 128 queues.

Maybe you need to review netdev_pick_tx and follow skb->queue_mapping
through the device notice that it is not really used by the qdisc.

>> 3) How would the back pressure/flow control of these individual TX
>> queues work in this case?

To sort this out look into netif_stop_subqueue() and how the ethernet
drivers use this call. Then look at how it is used in ./net/sch_generic
by the dequeue_skb() call. I think it should be clear by reviewing this
usage how the back pressure works from the driver to the qdisc. Its
fairly straight forward and uses a bit to indicate to the qdisc stack
the driver can not consume more skbs.

>> Thanks
>> Sharat
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