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Date:	Tue, 26 Aug 2014 07:38:48 +0200
From:	Giuseppe CAVALLARO <peppe.cavallaro@...com>
To:	Vince Bridgers <vbridgers2013@...il.com>
Cc:	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@...e.org>, Ley Foon Tan <lftan@...era.com>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, <lftan.linux@...il.com>,
	Vince Bridgers <vbridger@...era.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: stmmac: add dcrs parameter

On 8/25/2014 5:10 PM, Vince Bridgers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Giuseppe CAVALLARO
> <peppe.cavallaro@...com> wrote:
>> On 8/25/2014 2:34 PM, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Ley Foon Tan <lftan@...era.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This patch add the option to enable DCRS bit in GMAC control register.
>>>> Default is disabled if snps,dcrs is not defined.
>>>>
>>>> For MII, Carrier Sense (CRS) must be asserted during transmission
>>>> whereas in RGMII, CRS is not. RGMII does not provide a way to signal
>>>> loss of carrier during a transmission.
>
> While technically true, from a practical point of view, this is only
> useful if using true half-duplex media (like the now obsolete 10Base2
> and 10Base5 - think old school coax with vampire taps).
>
>>>>
>>>> When DCRS bit set high in control register, the MAC transmitter
>>>> ignore the (G)MII Carrier Sense signal during frame transmission
>>>> in the half-duplex mode. This request results in no errors generated
>>>> because of Loss of Carrier or No Carrier during such transmission.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ley Foon Tan <lftan@...era.com>
>>>> ---
>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Since you know this is only required under (G)MII, could you not re-use
>>> the "phy-mode" property, instead of adding another one?
>>>
>>> Better yet, use the "interface" field in the platform data. This way
>>> you'll
>>> fix non-DT devices as well. You could then avoid touching the platform
>>> driver,
>>> and just modify the driver core.
>>
>>
>> yes this is what I asked. Thx ChenYu for the this detail.
>> Ley Foon Tan, could you do that? Let me know
>>
>> peppe
>>
>>
>
> In the Synopsys EMAC case, carrier sense is used to stop transmitting
> if no carrier is sensed during a transmission. This is only useful if
> the media in use is true half duplex media (like obsolete 10Base2 or
> 10Base5). If no one in using true half duplex media, then is it
> possible to set this disable by default? If we're not sure, then
> having an option feels like the right thing to do.

Indeed this is what I had done in the patch.

http://git.stlinux.com/?p=stm/linux-sh4-2.6.32.y.git;a=commit;h=b0b863bf65c36dc593f6b7b4b418394fd880dae2

Also in case of carrier sense the frame will be dropped in any case
later.

Let me know if you Acked this patch so I will rebase it on
net.git and I send it soon

peppe

>
> Vince
>

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