netdev - Re: [PATCH] net: Add ndo_gso

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Message-ID: <CAEP_g=9gEhR3UKNe9aVJq8Prmg3awm6fDYHkZy_CumHKFkNNuA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:33:57 -0700
From:	Jesse Gross <jesse@...ira.com>
To:	Tom Herbert <therbert@...gle.com>
Cc:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Add ndo_gso_check

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Tom Herbert <therbert@...gle.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Jesse Gross <jesse@...ira.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Tom Herbert <therbert@...gle.com> wrote:
>>> Add ndo_gso_check which a device can define to indicate whether is
>>> is capable of doing GSO on a packet. This funciton would be called from
>>> the stack to determine whether software GSO is needed to be done. A
>>> driver should populate this function if it advertises GSO types for
>>> which there are combinations that it wouldn't be able to handle. For
>>> instance a device that performs UDP tunneling might only implement
>>> support for transparent Ethernet bridging type of inner packets
>>> or might have limitations on lengths of inner headers.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Tom Herbert <therbert@...gle.com>
>>
>> Offloads that might have limitations extend beyond GSO - checksum is
>> another possibility that could need something like a length check.
>>
> There are several examples of drivers that advertise checksum offload
> but then in TX path decide that they can't do it for various reasons--
> in this case they need to do software checksum calculation themselves.
> Applying this model to GSO, that is drivers do software GSO when they
> need to punt on packet, seems pretty hard to me, but maybe someone can
> look at it.

Yes, I definitely think that it's easier to have GSO done in the
stack. I agree with you that exposing various capabilities,
limitations, etc. for different features will get messy very quickly,
so I guess this model makes sense for now.

>> In addition, while I would also like to be optimistic about the
>> capabilities of existing NICs it's unlikely that any of them that are
>> advertising SKB_GSO_UDP_TUNNEL can actually do it with full
>> generality. So unless we can get the driver writers to chime in about
>> their capabilities (maybe we can, there's only a handful of them right
>> now), we probably need to provide a more conservative implementation
>> for those drivers. I guess I would probably do length equal to VXLAN
>> and perhaps containing Ethernet as a balance between the most
>> conservative and the most optimistic.
>
> Checking header length in ndo_gso_check would be trivial.

I agree - I just think that we need to provide some implementations in
existing drivers to do this. Otherwise, as we introduce new protocols
they will probably be broken in some situations.
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