netdev - RE: [net-next PATCH v1 1/3] net: sched: af_packet support for direct ring access

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Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D174C621F@AcuExch.aculab.com>
Date:	Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:59:35 +0000
From:	David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:	'David Miller' <davem@...emloft.net>
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Subject: RE: [net-next PATCH v1 1/3] net: sched: af_packet support for
 direct ring access

From: David 
> From: David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:27:03 +0000
> 
> > That is (probably) the only scheme that stops the application
> > accessing random parts of physical memory.
> 
> I don't know where this claim keeps coming from, it's false.
> 
> The application has to attach memory to the ring, and then the
> ring can only refer to that memory for the duration of the
> session.
> 
> There is no way that the user can program the address field of the
> descriptors to point at arbitrary physical memory locations.
> 
> There is protection and control.

I got the impression that the application was directly writing the ring
structure that the ethernet mac hardware uses to describe tx and rx buffers.
(ie they are mapped read-write into userspace).
Unless you have a system where you can limit the physical memory
ranges accessible to the mac hardware, I don't see how you can stop
the application putting rogue values into the ring.

Clearly I'm missing something in my quick read of the change.

	David



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