netdev - Re: [PATCH v9 net-next 2/4] net: filter: split filter.h and expose eBPF to user space

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Message-ID: <543D8741.5040107@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:27:45 +0200
From:	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>
To:	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>
CC:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
	Chema Gonzalez <chema@...gle.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 net-next 2/4] net: filter: split filter.h and expose
 eBPF to user space

On 10/14/2014 10:43 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com> wrote:
>> On 10/13/2014 11:49 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 09/03/2014 05:46 PM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, given you post the remaining two RFCs later on this window as
>>>>> you indicate, I have no objections:
>>>>>
>>>>> Acked-by: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>
>>>>
>>>> Ping, Alexei, are you still sending the patch for bpf_common.h or
>>>> do you want me to take care of this?
>>>
>>> It's not forgotten.
>>> I'm not sending it only because net-next is closed
>>> and it seems to be -next material.
>>
>> Well, the point was since it's UAPI you're modifying, that it needs
>> to be shipped before it first gets exposed to user land ...
>>
>> I think that should be reason enough ... there's no point in doing
>> this at a later point in time.
>
> Moving common #defines from filter.h into bpf_common.h can
> be done at any point in time. For the sake of argument if
> there is an app that includes both filter.h and bpf.h, it will
> continue to work just fine.

Correct, but the argument was that we can _avoid_ this from the
very beginning. Thus, user space applications making use of eBPF
only need to include <linux/bpf.h>, nothing more.

Doing this at any later point in time will just lead to the need
to include both headers.
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