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Message-ID: <543DE8F0.2040305@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:24:32 +0800
From:	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
CC:	rusty@...tcorp.com.au, virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 0/3] virtio-net: Conditionally enable tx
 interrupt

On 10/15/2014 05:51 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 02:53:27PM -0400, David Miller wrote:
>> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
>> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:16:43 +0800
>>
>>> We free old transmitted packets in ndo_start_xmit() currently, so any
>>> packet must be orphaned also there. This was used to reduce the overhead of
>>> tx interrupt to achieve better performance. But this may not work for some
>>> protocols such as TCP stream. TCP depends on the value of sk_wmem_alloc to
>>> implement various optimization for small packets stream such as TCP small
>>> queue and auto corking. But orphaning packets early in ndo_start_xmit()
>>> disable such things more or less since sk_wmem_alloc was not accurate. This
>>> lead extra low throughput for TCP stream of small writes.
>>>
>>> This series tries to solve this issue by enable tx interrupts for all TCP
>>> packets other than the ones with push bit or pure ACK. This is done through
>>> the support of urgent descriptor which can force an interrupt for a
>>> specified packet. If tx interrupt was enabled for a packet, there's no need
>>> to orphan it in ndo_start_xmit(), we can free it tx napi which is scheduled
>>> by tx interrupt. Then sk_wmem_alloc was more accurate than before and TCP
>>> can batch more for small write. More larger skb was produced by TCP in this
>>> case to improve both throughput and cpu utilization.
>>>
>>> Test shows great improvements on small write tcp streams. For most of the
>>> other cases, the throughput and cpu utilization are the same in the
>>> past. Only few cases, more cpu utilization was noticed which needs more
>>> investigation.
>>>
>>> Review and comments are welcomed.
>> I think proper accounting and queueing (at all levels, not just TCP
>> sockets) is more important than trying to skim a bunch of cycles by
>> avoiding TX interrupts.
>>
>> Having an event to free the SKB is absolutely essential for the stack
>> to operate correctly.
>>
>> And with virtio-net you don't even have the excuse of "the HW
>> unfortunately doesn't have an appropriate TX event."
>>
>> So please don't play games, and instead use TX interrupts all the
>> time.  You can mitigate them in various ways, but don't turn them on
>> selectively based upon traffic type, that's terrible.
> This got me thinking: how about using virtqueue_enable_cb_delayed
> for this mitigation?

Should work, another possible solution is interrupt coalescing, which
can speed up also the case without event index.
> It's pretty easy to implement - I'll send a proof of concept patch
> separately.
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