netdev - RE: [PATCH] net: use hardware buffer pool to allocate skb

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Message-ID: <efb0b7f4955243fbab9b24e0c31ea806@BY2PR03MB524.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Date:	Wed, 15 Oct 2014 05:43:05 +0000
From:	"Jiafei.Pan@...escale.com" <Jiafei.Pan@...escale.com>
To:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
CC:	"davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"jkosina@...e.cz" <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"LeoLi@...escale.com" <LeoLi@...escale.com>,
	"linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Jiafei.Pan@...escale.com" <Jiafei.Pan@...escale.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] net: use hardware buffer pool to allocate skb



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Dumazet [mailto:eric.dumazet@...il.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:15 PM
> To: Pan Jiafei-B37022
> Cc: davem@...emloft.net; jkosina@...e.cz; netdev@...r.kernel.org; Li Yang-Leo-
> R58472; linux-doc@...r.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: use hardware buffer pool to allocate skb
> 
> On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 11:26 +0800, Pan Jiafei wrote:
> > In some platform, there are some hardware block provided
> > to manage buffers to improve performance. So in some case,
> > it is expected that the packets received by some generic
> > NIC should be put into such hardware managed buffers
> > directly, so that such buffer can be released by hardware
> > or by driver.
> 
> You repeat 'some' four times.
> 
> >
> > This patch provide such general APIs for generic NIC to
> > use hardware block managed buffers without any modification
> > for generic NIC drivers.
> 
> ...
> 
> > In this patch, the following fields are added to "net_device":
> >     void *hw_skb_priv;
> >     struct sk_buff *(*alloc_hw_skb)(void *hw_skb_priv, unsigned int length);
> >     void (*free_hw_skb)(struct sk_buff *skb);
> > so in order to let generic NIC driver to use hardware managed
> > buffers, the function "alloc_hw_skb" and "free_hw_skb"
> > provide implementation for allocate and free hardware managed
> > buffers. "hw_skb_priv" is provided to pass some private data for
> > these two functions.
> >
> > When the socket buffer is allocated by these APIs, "hw_skb_state"
> > is provided in struct "sk_buff". this argument can indicate
> > that the buffer is hardware managed buffer, this buffer
> > should freed by software or by hardware.
> >
> > Documentation on how to use this featue can be found at
> > <file:Documentation/networking/hw_skb.txt>.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Pan Jiafei <Jiafei.Pan@...escale.com>
> 
> 
> I am giving a strong NACK, of course.
> 
> We are not going to grow sk_buff and add yet another conditional in fast
> path for a very obscure feature like that.
> 
> Memory management is not going to be done by drivers.
> 
> The way it should work is that if your hardware has specific needs, rx
> and tx paths (of the driver) need to make the needed adaptation.
> Not the other way.
> 
> We already have complex skb layouts, we do not need a new one.
> 
> Take a look at how drivers can 'lock' pages already, and build skb sith
> page frags. It is already there.
> 
For my case, there are some shortcoming to use page frags. Firstly, I have to
modify each Ethernet drivers to support it especially I don’t which vendor's
driver the customer will use. Secondly, it is not enough only 
build skb by 'lock' pages, the buffer address comes from hardware block and
should be aligned to hardware block.