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Message-ID: <CAHA+R7Pi=87b_umrKnd4bsZ+DPkRoTWhNyPwAND5pDzF_3EDaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 9 Jan 2015 11:37:42 -0800
From:	Cong Wang <cwang@...pensource.com>
To:	Ani Sinha <ani@...sta.com>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: route/max_size sysctl in ipv4

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Ani Sinha <ani@...sta.com> wrote:
>
> Perhaps. What I am truly confused about is :
>
> - We are keeping a sysctl interface that does absolutely nothing in
> the kernel and is completely useless in case some userland
> scripts/tools are rendered broken from it's removal.

I am all for getting rid of it, sane script should always check
the sysctl existence first. I think we did remove some sysctl's
from kernel before.

>
> - surprisingly, we contradict ourselves when we let scripts break when
> running from a child namespace because the  same sysctl is no longer
> available!
>

I am not sure how exactly your script is broken, but it should
test the existence of any /proc file before reading it, even when
you don't use netns, because this could be a new sysctl introduced
recently (probably not the case for ip_rt_max_size, but you get my point).
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