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Message-ID: <CAOgR63dbem_NGnMLsMCxBpkhp+QHSvVF5ozU-dvSFF34r5r6qA@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 21:55:11 +0100 From: Bas Peters <baspeters93@...il.com> To: Paul Bolle <pebolle@...cali.nl> Cc: Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>, Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...p.cc>, Sergei Shtylyov <sergei.shtylyov@...entembedded.com>, "isdn@...ux-pingi.de" <isdn@...ux-pingi.de>, Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@...6.fr>, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] drivers: isdn: act2000: capi.c: fix checkpatch errors 2015-02-07 21:43 GMT+01:00 Paul Bolle <pebolle@...cali.nl>: > [Adding Tilman.] > > On Sat, 2015-02-07 at 11:19 -0800, Joe Perches wrote: >> Does anyone still use these cards? > > 0) Good question. > > 1) None of the (two dozen) commits in drivers/isdn/act2000/ added since > v2.6.12 appear to be triggered complaints, suggestions, etc. of actual > users. > > 2) Broader picture: if I remember correctly there are now four different > flavors of ISDN in the kernel: > - really old: pre-i4l > - very old: i4l > - just old: CAPI > - not so old: mISDN > > I could spend another 24 hours refining and relabeling these categories, > and matching the various drivers to these categories. But I'm pretty > sure none of the current categories contain all the drivers. And I'm > certain all current categories support one or more drivers that none of > the other categories do. So the current ISDN situation is a bit messy. > > Tilman might be able to provide a clearer, and maybe less grumpy, > summary of the current situation. > > 3) Anyhow, this is an i4l card. i4l is deprecated since v2.6.22. And it > was obsolete before that! > > 4) Furthermore, it seems consumer grade ISDN is on the way out. Eg, my > ISP will disconnect my, let's call it, ADSL over ISDN connection in less > that two months because they can't be bothered anymore to support that > niche. > > 5) So we could let the various flavors of ISDN limp along for another > few years. But maybe we should consider, say, removing i4l and pre i4l > and see who complains. That might be a rude thing to do. So perhaps the > various ISDN flavors should be left alone until ... what exactly? > > > Paul Bolle > In that case I will drop this patchset. I thought it might have been useful and a good way to learn but I'm just wasting everyone's time with it if it's that deprecated. Regards, Bas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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