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Message-ID: <20150216115137.5aa3f0cd@uryu.home.lan>
Date:	Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:51:37 -0500
From:	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
To:	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>
Cc:	yzhu1 <Yanjun.Zhu@...driver.com>, netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Wu, Kuaikuai" <Kuaikuai.Wu@...driver.com>,
	"Tao, Yue" <Yue.Tao@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: If bridge have no sub-interfaces, it's status may be still with
 'RUNNING'

Originally bridge code would start with carrier off,
but there were users using bridge as a form of dummy device
and this broke them. Therefore it was decided (like 5 yrs ago),
that bridge should start with carrier on.
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