Message-ID: <54EDDB72.1090706@roeck-us.net>
Date:	Wed, 25 Feb 2015 06:25:54 -0800
From:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:	Andrey Volkov <andrey.volkov@...vision.fr>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
CC:	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>, netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com>,
	jerome.oufella@...oirfairelinux.com,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/2] net: dsa: integrate with SWITCHDEV for HW bridging

Andrey,

On 02/25/2015 05:43 AM, Andrey Volkov wrote:
> Gunter, Florian,
>
> Le 23/02/2015 19:35, Guenter Roeck a wrote :
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:05:41AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>> On 23/02/15 08:01, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>>>> I currently use ATU command 110 (flush all non-static entries in a
>>>>> particular FID). I see means to flush either all entries or all
>>>>> non-static entries, but no means to only flush unicast or multicast
>>>>> entries. Does any of the standards distinguish between learned unicast
>>>>> and multicast addresses ? Flushing those selectively might be a
>>>>> challenge.
>>> Lucky you, on Broadcom switches you have to issue an ARL search, get the
>>> results (there are all valid MAC entries, fortunately), and invalidate
>>> the entries one by one for your particular ports of interest, there is
>>> no "flush all non-static entries".
>>>
>>>> You might need to walk the table and flush records individually if you
>>>> are only interested in one type.
>>>>
>>>> We should also consider do we need to make these flush operations
>>>> atomic with respect to other operations? Do we need to disable
>>>> learning, flush, change the port STP status, and then enable learning?
>> Wonder what if anything RSTP specifies for flush operation details.
>>
>>> I think we may have to do this to guarantee no race conditions between
>>> flushing the switch's FDB, although it would look like only "joining" a
>>> bridge needs to be a more controlled operation, on leave we can probably
>>> just leave the bridge, flush entries and the switch port will start
>>> learning new MAC addresses, right?
>>>
>>> Alternatively, would not setting a very low aging timeout and
>>> maintaining HW learning still allow us to simplify these operations?
>> That is what STP specifies. With RSTP, the expectation is that the database
>> is flushed immediately on port status changes. Also, the minimum aging
>> period on Marvell switches is 15 seconds, which is way too long for RSTP.
>>
>> Guenter
>>
> I simply modify port's fid to the new one in the leave routine and set to common bridge FID in enter
> (I'm using Marvell's chips). So the port's database will cleaned up automatically for the leave and will
> contain something useful at the enter time. Also I've look through yours patches and I haven't

Does removing a port from a fid clean up the entries associated with it
in the database ?

> seen any mutichip bridges/hardwared "trunks" support (in the Marvell's sense), did anyone, except me, use it?
>
Not me. That would be difficult to test without real hardware.

The above suggests that you have a HW bridge implementation for Marvell chips as well.
Would it make sense to merge our implementations, or just use yours if it is better ?

> Btw your current FID implementation contain funny security problem: same ports in the different chips,
> interconnected by DSA, will have same FID and as result they will treated as bridged together by
> internal switch logic...
>
You mean if multiple switch chips are used ? Those ports are configured to only send
data to the CPU port. Doesn't that take care of the problem ? Granted, I have not
looked into multi-chip applications, so there may well be some problems. Maybe
it is possible to merge a chip ID into the fid to solve it.

Thanks,
Guenter

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