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Message-ID: <55016780.8060000@miraclelinux.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 19:16:32 +0900 From: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com> To: Ulf samuelsson <netdev@...gii.com> CC: hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com, yzhu1 <Yanjun.Zhu@...driver.com>, "brian.haley@...com" <brian.haley@...com>, "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>, "alexandre.dietsch@...driver.com" <alexandre.dietsch@...driver.com>, "clinton.slabbert@...driver.com" <clinton.slabbert@...driver.com>, "kuznet@....inr.ac.ru" <kuznet@....inr.ac.ru>, "jmorris@...ei.org" <jmorris@...ei.org>, "kaber@...sh.net" <kaber@...sh.net>, "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, "ulf.samuelsson@...csson.com" <ulf.samuelsson@...csson.com>, "YOSHIFUJI Hideaki (USAGI Project)" <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/1] neighbour: Support broadcast ARP in neighbor PROPE state Hi, Ulf samuelsson wrote: > If you want to send 3 unicasts followed by 3 broadcast, > you have to set mcast_solicit to 6. > This means you will send 6 broadcasts in incomplete state. > > I think the following configuration is wanted: > > Incomplete state: send 3 broadcast > Probe state: send 3 unicast, followed by 3 broadcast then goto STALE OR > Send 3 unicast, then go to STALE I pointed out that we deal with nodes that won't reply against unicast ARP/NDP via existing knobs. If you really want such configuration, it is better to split mcast_solicit. "bcast_solicit" does not sound good to me. You could say "probe_mcast_solicit". --yoshfuji > > Best Regards > Ulf Samuelsson > ulf@...gii.com > +46 (722) 427 437 > > >> 12 mar 2015 kl. 10:28 skrev YOSHIFUJI Hideaki/吉藤英明 <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com>: >> >> Hi, >> >> Ulf samuelsson wrote: >>> That also means that you increase the number of broadcasts in incomplete state. >>> Is that really desirable? >> >> In NUD_INCOMPLETE state, neighbour subsystem *skips* sending unicast probes >> and send multicast probes mcast_solicit times. If you do not increase >> the number of mcast_solicit, the number of multicast probes in >> NUD_INCOMPLETE will not increased. >> >> --yoshfuji >> >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Ulf Samuelsson >>> ulf@...gii.com >>> +46 (722) 427 437 >>> >>> >>>> 12 mar 2015 kl. 09:42 skrev YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com>: >>>> >>>> Hello. >>>> >>>> yzhu1 wrote: >>>>> The state machine is in the attachment. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards! >>>>> Zhu Yanjun >>>>>> On 03/12/2015 02:58 PM, Zhu Yanjun wrote: >>>>>> V2: >>>>>> set ARP_PROBE_BCAST default N. >>>>>> >>>>>> V1: >>>>>> Have a problem with an HP router at a certain location, which >>>>>> is configured to only answer to broadcast ARP requests. >>>>>> That cannot be changed. >>>>>> >>>>>> The first ARP request the kernel sends out, is a broadcast request, >>>>>> which is fine, but after the reply, the kernel sends unicast requests, >>>>>> which will not get any replies. >>>>>> >>>>>> The ARP entry will after some time enter STALE state, >>>>>> and if nothing is done it will time out, and be removed. >>>>>> This process takes to long, and I have been told that it is >>>>>> difficult to makes changes that will eventually remove it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have tried to change the state from STALE to INCOMPLETE, which failed, >>>>>> and then tried to change the state to PROBE which also failed. >>>>>> >>>>>> The stack is only sending out unicasts, and never broadcast. >>>>>> Is there any way to get the stack to send out a broadcast ARP >>>>>> without having to wait for the entry to be removed? >>>> >>>> Neighbour subsystem will send multicast probes after unicast >>>> probes in NUD_PROBE state if mcast_solicit is more than >>>> ucast_solicit. Try setting net.ipv4.neigh.*.ucast_solicit to >>>> the value less than net.ipv4.neigh.*.mcast_solicit, please? >>>> e.g. >>>> >>>> net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.mcast_solicit = 3 >>>> net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.ucast_solicit = 1 >>>> >>>> --yoshfuji >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the recommended behaviour in IPv6 is to send out 3 unicasts >>>>>> and if all fails, to send out broadcasts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Zhu Yanjun (1): >>>>>> neighbour: Support broadcast ARP in neighbor PROPE state >>>>>> >>>>>> include/net/neighbour.h | 7 ++++++ >>>>>> include/uapi/linux/neighbour.h | 6 +++++ >>>>>> include/uapi/linux/sysctl.h | 3 +++ >>>>>> kernel/sysctl_binary.c | 3 +++ >>>>>> net/core/neighbour.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--- >>>>>> net/ipv4/Kconfig | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>> net/ipv4/arp.c | 7 ++++-- >>>>>> 7 files changed, 121 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hideaki Yoshifuji <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com> >>>> Technical Division, MIRACLE LINUX CORPORATION >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in >>>> the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org >>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> >> -- >> 吉藤英明 <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com> >> ミラクル・リナックス株式会社 技術本部 サポート部 >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- Hideaki Yoshifuji <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com> Technical Division, MIRACLE LINUX CORPORATION -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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