netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 6/8] iproute2: Add support for the RTA

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Date:	Tue, 07 Apr 2015 11:09:24 -0500
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	roopa <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>
Cc:	Andy Gospodarek <gospo@...ulusnetworks.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemming@...cade.com>,
	"netdev\@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Vivek Venkatraman <vivek@...ulusnetworks.com>,
	rshearma@...cade.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 6/8] iproute2: Add support for the RTA_VIA attribute

roopa <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com> writes:

> On 4/6/15, 4:27 PM, Andy Gospodarek wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 04:04:06PM -0700, roopa wrote:
>>> On 3/15/15, 12:52 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>> Add support for the RTA_VIA attribute that specifies an address family
>>>> as well as an address for the next hop gateway.
>>>>
>>>> To make it easy to pass this reorder inet_prefix so that it's tail
>>>> is a proper RTA_VIA attribute.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>   include/linux/rtnetlink.h |  7 +++++
>>>>   include/utils.h           |  7 +++--
>>>>   ip/iproute.c              | 76 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>>>>   man/man8/ip-route.8.in    | 18 +++++++----
>>>>   4 files changed, 90 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/rtnetlink.h b/include/linux/rtnetlink.h
>>>> index 3eb78105399b..03e4c8df8e60 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/rtnetlink.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/rtnetlink.h
>>>> @@ -303,6 +303,7 @@ enum rtattr_type_t {
>>>>   	RTA_TABLE,
>>>>   	RTA_MARK,
>>>>   	RTA_MFC_STATS,
>>>> +	RTA_VIA,
>>> eric, if its not too late, what do you think about renaming RTA_VIA
>>> attribute to
>>> RTA_NEWGATEWAY (similar to your new RTA_NEWDST attribute to specify a label
>>> dst) ?. RTA_VIA is fine too.
>>> This is indeed a new way to specify a gateway (and can/will be used by RFC
>>> 5549 in the future).
>>>
>>> If there is interest in renaming it to RTA_NEWGATEWAY (or any other name,
>>> cant think of anything better right now),
>>> I will be happy to submit a follow-on patch.
>> FWIW, I actually do not mind the name RTA_VIA.  I was planning to
>> replace use of RTA_GATEWAY in iproute2 and just usa RTA_VIA for all
>> nexthops regardless of the address family of the dest route or nexthop
>> and would allow easy creation of the infrastructure needed to support
>> RFC5549 -- obviously while keeping backwards compatibility in the
>> kernel.
> ok, good to know.

To answer the original question.  The new in RTA_NEWDST is not new as in
a new attribute it is new as in replace the destination address with a
new destination address.  NAT in other words.  Which is how mpls routing
works.  Each hop NATs the address before sending the packet on.

>> This was what my orignal set did (not submitted to netdev, but discussed
>> with others at netconf) and it was much cleaner code-wise (but not ideal
>> as I overloaded the use of RTA_GATEWAY and that was not pleasing to me
>> or others).
> ok, yeah i remember you had RTA_GATEWAY6 or something like that.
>
> just to clarify, i was not suggesting overloading.
> eric introduced cleaner abstracted attributes for RTA_DST and RTA_GATEWAY.
> One is called RTA_NEWDST and I was thinking if changing RTA_GATEWAY to
> RTA_NEWGATEWAY
> would be less confusing (because, the rest of the structures
> (ipv4/ipv6) where you will put the
> RTA_VIA information is still called gw).
>
> No worries, RTA_VIA can stay if more people prefer that.

As long as the number and the semantics don't change I don't much care.

However I think via is probably what we should have called the concept
and the field in the first place, and certainly there are corner cases
where the machine where we are going via is not actually a gateway but
the final destination, when you are talking about multiple protocols.

Regardless the name RTA_VIA is my best attempt in that direction.

All of my added support in iproute2 should work for RFC5549.  As well as
for mpls.

Eric
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