netdev - Re: [PATCHSET] printk, netconsole: implement reliable netconsole

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Message-Id: <20150417.131712.1245246947203158168.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:	Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:17:12 -0400 (EDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	tj@...nel.org
Cc:	penguin-kernel@...ove.SAKURA.ne.jp, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] printk, netconsole: implement reliable netconsole

From: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:28:26 -0400

> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:35:06AM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>> If the sender side can wait for retransmission, why can't we use
>> userspace programs (e.g. rsyslogd)?
> 
> Because the system may be oopsing, ooming or threshing excessively
> rendering the userland inoperable and that's exactly when we want
> those log messages to be transmitted out of the system.

If userland cannot run properly, it is almost certain that neither will
your complex reliability layer logic.

I tend to agree with Tetsuo, that in-kernel netconsole should remain
as simple as possible and once it starts to have any smarts and less
trivial logic the job belongs in userspace.
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