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Date:	Wed, 8 Jul 2015 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com>
To:	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc:	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, David <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	kernel <kernel@...oirfairelinux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: add support for VLAN Table
 Unit

Hi Andrew,

On Jul 8, 2015, at 1:32 PM, Andrew Lunn andrew@...n.ch wrote:

> Vivien Didelot wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Andrew Lunn andrew@...n.ch wrote:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 05:18:17PM -0400, Vivien Didelot wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> 
>> >> This patchset brings full support for hardware VLANs in DSA, and the Marvell
>> >> 88E6xxx compatible switch chips.
>> > 
>> > Hi Vivien
>> > 
>> > I would like to do a proper review and testing of these patchset, but
>> > i go on vacation this afternoon. So it will be in about 2 weeks time.
>> > 
>> > I spent 15 minutes tests just now. I spotted two things:
>> > 
>> > 1) I played with a configuration, and then rebooted the machine. After
>> > login i see:
>> > 
>> > Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
>> > permitted by applicable law.
>> > # cat /sys/kernel/debug/dsa0/vtu
>> > VID  FID  SID  0  1  2  3  4  5  6
>> >   1    1    0  u  u  u  u  x  x  t
>> > 500  500    0  t  t  t  t  x  x  t
>> > 550  550    0  t  x  x  x  x  x  t
>> > # bridge vlan show
>> > port    vlan ids
>> > lan0     1 PVID Egress Untagged
>> > 
>> > lan0     1 PVID Egress Untagged
>> > 
>> > lan1
>> > lan2
>> > lan3
>> > lan4
>> > lan5
>> > lan6
>> > lan7
>> > lan8     1 PVID Egress Untagged
>> > 
>> > lan8     1 PVID Egress Untagged
>> > 
>> > optical3
>> > optical4
>> > br0      1 PVID Egress Untagged
>> > 
>> > 
>> > So the switch seems to have some VTU table entries, but the bridge
>> > command does not show them. I suspect that a warm boot does not clear
>> > out the VTU entries in the switch.
>> > 
>> > Until recently we had a similar problem with the statistics
>> > counters. I wounder if we have the same problem with other tables? Do
>> > static ATU entries get removed on a reboot?
>> > 
>> 
>> You're right. There's a single operation to clear the STU and VTU. I
>> will send a follow-up patch to send this command during the switch
>> setup.
>> 
>> > 2) I cold booted the machine, to be sure to have a clean state. Then:
>> > 
>> > # cat /sys/kernel/debug/dsa0/vtu
>> > VID  FID  SID  0  1  2  3  4  5  6
>> >   1    1    0  u  x  x  x  x  x  t
>> > 
>> > So a good initial state. I then configure two bridges:
>> > 
>> > # brctl show
>> > bridge name     bridge id               STP enabled     interfaces
>> > br0             8000.92647a2160c4       yes             lan0
>> >                                                        lan1
>> > br1             8000.92647a2160c4       yes             lan2
>> >                                                        lan3
>> > 
>> > and then add vlan 500 to the four interfaces.
>> > 
>> > # bridge vlan add vid 500 dev lan0 master
>> > # bridge vlan add vid 500 dev lan1 master
>> > # bridge vlan add vid 500 dev lan2 master
>> > # bridge vlan add vid 500 dev lan3 master
>> > 
>> > # cat /sys/kernel/debug/dsa0/vtu
>> > VID  FID  SID  0  1  2  3  4  5  6
>> >   1    1    0  u  u  u  u  x  x  t
>> > 500  500    0  t  t  t  t  x  x  t
>> > 
>> > Does this mean we have one hardware bridge? All four ports can talk to
>> > each other? I've not actually sent any frames to test this, so i'm
>> > just speculating. Given that i have two software bridges, this is not
>> > what i would expect, if frames from lan0 or lan1, also went out lan2
>> > or lan3.
>> 
>> Indeed, with the "master" keyword, we ask switchdev to populate the
>> parent's (i.e. the switch chip) to create VLANs. Marvell switch such as
>> the 88E66352 can only have a single VLAN table entry for a given VID.
> 
> Hi Vivien
> 
> We are using the switch to perform hardware acceleration of things
> that Linux does already in software. We have to keep with the
> semantics of what is already supported in software. The patch in its
> current state breaks the accepted behaviour.

I understand. However this whole VLAN thing represents a lot of code.
Some other work depends on portions of it. Do you think it'd be OK if I
resend the patch 1/3 alone? Having only the VTU operations and "vtu"
debugfs file does not break the actual behavior, and will lighten up the
following patchsets.

The patch 2/3 is ready and doesn't break anything either, but Jiri and
David suggested to send this patch with some actual implementation. Even
if the patch 3/3 shows that this switchdev/DSA glue is functional, I
understand that both have to be sent together later.

> This is a limitation of the switch. So the driver needs to keep track
> of which bridge a VLAN belongs to, if it is asked to accelerate the
> same VLAN for a different bridge, it needs to say to the kernel,
> sorry, cannot do that, and leave the kernel to do it in software.

Scott, how do you think this must be done? Returning a different error
code when trying to add a SWITCHDEV_OBJ_PORT_VLAN object?
Not sure how to query this fallback. Is -EOPNOTSUPP enough?

Thanks,
-v
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