netdev - Re: [RFC net-next 1/1] : sctp: denoise deprecation log on SCTP

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Message-Id: <24639F82-1D2F-4D12-AF1C-415F87D0A182@fh-muenster.de>
Date:	Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:30:32 +0200
From:	Michael Tuexen <tuexen@...muenster.de>
To:	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>
Cc:	David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@...atatu.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>,
	Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@...hat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 1/1] : sctp: denoise deprecation log on SCTP_EVENTS

> On 22 Jul 2015, at 14:04, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net> wrote:
> 
> On 07/22/2015 01:48 PM, David Laight wrote:
>> From: Jamal Hadi Salim
>>> Sent: 09 July 2015 11:38
>>> 
>>> In the newer kernels this message is extremely noisy. After a quick
>>> discussion with Daniel it seems to me it will be very hard to get
>>> existing apps that nobody is going to update to continue to work
>>> (i.e no forward compat). And newer apps that desire to play in both
>>> older kernels and new kernels will have to play some tricks to work
>>> (i.e weak backward compatibility).  These are good reasons
>>> to totally get rid of this message. At minimal to neutre it.
>>> The attached change tries to do that. However, if you had multiple
>>> apps, you will only get warning for the first one.
>> 
>> Never mind spanning the kernel log, there will be performance
>> issues with systems that are sending significant amounts of SCTP data.
>> I'm not sure you'll get 10000+/sec through the trace system.
> 
> What do you mean by "trace system" (there's no backtrace)?
> 
> Anyway, as previously stated, I doubt we'd get rid of the deprecated
> SCTP uapi from the RFC any time soon, so, imho, we should just remove
> these rate-limited messages altogether to stop spamming the klog ...
... and we will not remove it in FreeBSD either.

Best regards
Michael
> 
>> I'm going to have to find which version this trace went into and
>> make sure we tell customers not to use the relevant kernel versions.
>> 
>> 	David
>> 
> 
> 

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