netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 7/7] switchdev: update documentation on FDB ageing

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Date:	Sun, 20 Sep 2015 08:56:26 -0700
From:	Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
To:	roopa <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>
Cc:	Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jiří Pírko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
	Siva Mannem <siva.mannem.lnx@...il.com>,
	Premkumar Jonnala <pjonnala@...adcom.com>,
	"stephen@...workplumber.org" <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
	"andrew@...n.ch" <andrew@...n.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com>,
	Wilson Kok <wkok@...ulusnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 7/7] switchdev: update documentation on FDB ageing_time

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 7:24 AM, roopa <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com> wrote:
> On 9/19/15, 7:21 PM, Scott Feldman wrote:
>>
>> Yes, your switch driver is in user-space so you have to use NTF_USE to
>> refresh the entry since you cannot use the kernel driver model to
>> call_switchdev_notifiers(SWITCHDEV_FDB_ADD, ...).  Consequently, your
>> entries are not marked with NTF_EXT_LEARNED, so this patch is a no-op
>> for you.  You can continue to use the bridge driver to age out your
>> entries.
>
> yes, correct.  I was not really saying this because it will cause us any
> problems.
> I was trying to say this for switchdev in general.
>
>> I'd rather someone add that knob when it's actually needed. When the first
>> in-kernel switchdev driver that wants to use the bridge driver's ageing
>> function, then we can make that adjustment.
>
> I was suggesting the other way around. Keep the default to what is in the
> kernel today and the first in-kernel switchdev driver that wants to age,
> should introduce the ability to not age in the bridge driver (Rocker will
> continue to work as it does today). Because, I am only concerned that rocker
> may end up being the only device that uses the default behavior introduced
> by this patch. And every real hardware uses the bridge driver to age
> (because there are no in kernel examples today).  I am curious to know who
> else is using hardware ageing today.

A driver patch for a (real) hardware device which does the ageing in
hw is around the corner.
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