netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] bpf: add support for persistent maps/progs

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Message-Id: <1445240171.3728424.413797809.230D716F@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Date:	Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:36:11 +0200
From:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>
To:	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	davem@...emloft.net, viro@...IV.linux.org.uk, tgraf@...g.ch,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] bpf: add support for persistent maps/progs

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015, at 22:59, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On 10/18/15 9:49 AM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> > Okay, I have pushed some rough working proof of concept here:
> >
> > https://git.breakpoint.cc/cgit/dborkman/net-next.git/log/?h=ebpf-fds-final5
> >
> > So the idea eventually had to be slightly modified after giving this
> > further
> > thoughts and is the following:
> >
> > We have 3 commands (BPF_DEV_CREATE, BPF_DEV_DESTROY, BPF_DEV_CONNECT), and
> > related to that a bpf_attr extension with only a single __u32 fd member
> > in it.
> ...
> > The nice thing about it is that you can create/unlink as many as you
> > want, but
> > when you remove the real device from an application via
> > bpf_dev_destroy(fd),
> > then all links disappear with it. Just like in the case of a normal
> > device driver.
> 
> interesting idea!
> What happens if user app creates a dev via bpf_dev_create(), exits and
> then admin does rm of that dev ?
> Looks like map/prog will leak ?
> So the only proper way to delete such cdevs is via bpf_dev_destroy ?

The mknod is not the holder but rather the kobject which should be
represented in sysfs will be. So you can still get the map major:minor
by looking up the /dev file in the correspdonding sysfs directory or I
think we should provide a 'unbind' file, which will drop the kobject if
the user writes a '1' to it.

> 
> > On device creation, the kernel will return the minor number via bpf(2),
> > so you
> > can access the file easily, f.e. /dev/bpf/bpf_map<minor> resp.
> > /dev/bpf/bpf_prog<minor>,
> > and then move on with mknod(2) or symlink(2) from there if wished.
> 
> what if admin mknod in that dir with some arbitrary minor ?

Basically, -EIO. :)

> mknod will succeed, but it won't hold anything?

That is right now true for basically all mknod operations, which udev
creates.

> looks like bpf_dev_connect will handle it gracefully.
> So these cdevs should only be created and destroyed via bpf syscall
> and only sensible operations on them is open() to get fd and pass
> to bpf_dev_connect and symlink. Anything else admin should be
> careful not to do. Right?

Besides maybe some statistics and other stuff in sysfs directory, no,
that is all.

Bye,
Hannes

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