netdev - Re: [PATCH net] net: try harder to not reuse ifindex when moving interfaces

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Message-ID: <20151022170100.1e45a8b8@griffin>
Date:	Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:00:59 +0200
From:	Jiri Benc <jbenc@...hat.com>
To:	Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@...nd.com>
Cc:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	thaller@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: try harder to not reuse ifindex when moving
 interfaces

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:52:13 +0200, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
> With the proposed scenario:
> 1. create netns 'new_netns'
> 2. in root netns, move the interface with ifindex 2 to new_netns
> 3. in new_netns, delete the interface with ifindex 2
> 4. in new_netns, create an interface - it will get ifindex 2
> 
> Operation 2 and 4 are done by dev_change_net_namespace() under rtnl_lock().
> RTM_DELLINK(root netns) and RTM_NEWLINK(new_netns) are sent by this function.
> It means that operation 3 has been done before and that RTM_DELLINK(new_netns)
> has been sent before.

Imagine the application trying to configure the interface with ifindex 2
after your step 2. It constructs a netlink message and sends it to the
kernel; but while doing so, steps 3 and 4 happen. Now the application
ends up configuring a different interface than it intended to. After
that, it polls the netlink socket and receives the notifications about
interface disappearing and a new one appearing.

I don't see any way the user space application can prevent this. There
will always be a race between receiving netlink notifications and
sending config requests.

I guess Thomas Haller can elaborate more as he ran into this.

 Jiri

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Jiri Benc
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