netdev - Re: [RFC][PATCH] net: arinc429: Add ARINC-429 stack

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Message-ID: <56390AEB.3000909@hartkopp.net>
Date:	Tue, 03 Nov 2015 20:28:43 +0100
From:	Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@...tkopp.net>
To:	Marek Vasut <marex@...x.de>
CC:	Aleksander Morgado <aleksander@...ksander.es>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@...gutronix.de>,
	Vostrikov Andrey <andrey.vostrikov@...entembedded.com>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@...ndegger.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] net: arinc429: Add ARINC-429 stack



On 11/03/2015 08:19 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 03, 2015 at 07:03:26 PM, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
>> On 11/03/2015 06:41 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 03, 2015 at 06:32:12 PM, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> It looks like you need to shift the stuff in user space every time.
>>>>
>>>> So you might better think of something like this:
>>>>     struct a429_frame {
>>>>     
>>>>             __u32   label;   /* ARINC 429 label */
>>>>             __u8    length;  /* always set to 8 */
>>>>             __u8    __pad;   /* padding */
>>>>             __u8    __res0;  /* reserved / padding */
>>>>             __u8    __res1;  /* reserved / padding */
>>>>             __u32   data __attribute__((aligned(8)));
>>>>             __u8    p;       /* p */
>>>>             __u8    ssm;     /* ssm */
>>>>             __u8    sdi;     /* sdi */
>>>>             __u8    __end;   /* padding */
>>>>     
>>>>     };
>>>
>>> You don't want to interpret those P(arity)/SSM/SDI bits, since they
>>> differ depending on whatever the remote party sends. That's why I
>>> decided to just make those into 3-bytes of data and let the userland
>>> application deal with it as seen fit. Besides, the ARINC "FTP" really
>>> uses those 3 bytes as plain data.
>>
>> Ok. I did not know what P was for :-)
> 
> Oh yeah. P is parity and it's optional as well and can be odd/even depending
> on the remote endpoint (sigh).
> 
>> Btw. it can make sense to introduce an union struct where different options
>> to access the content are possible.
> 
> This would be pretty nasty I think. By reading the ARINC specification, the
> SSM can be either 2 or 3 bits, the SDI is who-knows-what depending on the
> remote endpoint and the P is also not always present. I'm not convinced that
> the kernel should interpret the 3 byte ARINC payload in any way. (but I wonder
> if my argument presented above is convincing at all either ...).

Right.

When we define a user visible data structure, this is written into stone.

When ARINC isn't even sure about the detailed interpretation we should
definitely keep our fingers away from doing it ourselves.

Best regards,
Oliver

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