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Message-ID: <20151204093837.GB22014@amd>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 10:38:38 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@...x.de>
To: David Daney <ddaney@...iumnetworks.com>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@...nsource.altera.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, david.daney@...ium.com,
netdev@...r.kernel.org,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SoCFPGA ethernet broken
> >While updating DTS might be good idea, I don't think you can simply
> >blame this on DTS. If it worked before the change, it is supposed to
> >work after the change, otherwise we call that change a "regression"
> >and revert the change.
>
> FWIW: My initial patch to address the failure worked with the original DTB.
>
> Also: userspace wasn't broken. So, the commandment about not breaking
> userspace wasn't broken. Although admittedly, breaking the kernel isn't
> good either.
You can't break neither kernel nor userspace.
> >Plus, DTS is supposed to be ABI. Old DTS should still work on new
> >kernels in ideal world.
>
> If you supply the device tree file in the kernel tree, it is not an ABI.
>
> If the device tree is not part of the kernel, and instead comes from the
> boot firmware of the board, then you could make the ABI claim.
It is an ABI if it was declared so, and it was. Yes, it _can_ come
from kernel tree. That does not mean it has to.
Pavel
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