netdev - Re: [patch net-next 3/9] mlx4: Implement port type setting via devlink interface

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Message-ID: <56CC815D.9070009@stressinduktion.org>
Date:	Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:57:17 +0100
From:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>
To:	Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
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Subject: Re: [patch net-next 3/9] mlx4: Implement port type setting via
 devlink interface

On 23.02.2016 16:30, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 04:16:11PM CET, hannes@...essinduktion.org wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>> 1) is easily solvable, just drop the ifindex style attributes and always
>>>> force the user to enter the bus and bus-topology id.
>>>
>>> But why? Use can easily get that info and map it to devlink index. It
>>> aligns with nl80211 iface.
>>>
>>> Do you really want to do commands like:
>>> myhost:~$ dl dev show pci_0000:01:00.0
>>> ?
>>
>> Yes, exactly I would. I would put them into a boot-up script based on my
>> system configuration and can be sure it will work the next boot, too, and
>> adapt them when I replace the hardware or do some configuration changes.
>>
>> I think sysadmins or scripts are the primary users of this interface not
>> kernel developers which switch their settings around all the time, no?
>
> I can easily add this to the userspace tool to accept "pci_0000:01:00.0"
> format and to map it internally to devlink index. No problem.

I argue for this stable topology identifier to be the default. 
Especially if you add device info before the actual module is loaded 
(this is during initramfs, when udev cannot rename devlink names to 
stable ones), a user has to deal with pre-devlink-ids before rename and 
after. Do you have plans how to address that?

Current initramfs for stable interface names uses EUI48 based mac 
addresses most of the time and udev runs then after the pivot_root.

The devlink names can easily be aliases in user space.

Bye,
Hannes