netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add driver bpf hook for early packet drop

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Message-ID: <CAKD1Yr351bEXwBOj8e8Hq=_u7J4Zi2-r=w3k9Z3XFe0AP4m5aw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:28:00 +0900
From:	Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@...gle.com>
To:	Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com>
Cc:	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>,
	Brenden Blanco <bblanco@...mgrid.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
	gerlitz@...lanox.com, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
	john fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add driver bpf hook for early packet drop

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com> wrote:
> I am curious though, how do you think this would specifically help
> Android with power? Seems like the receiver still needs to be powered
> to receive packets to filter them anyway...

The receiver is powered up, but its wake/sleep cycles are much shorter
than the main CPU's. On a phone, leaving the CPU asleep with wifi on
might consume ~5mA average, but getting the CPU out of suspend might
average ~200mA for ~300ms as the system comes out of sleep,
initializes other hardware, wakes up userspace processes whose
timeouts have fired, freezes, and suspends again. Receiving one such
superfluous packet every 3 seconds (e.g., on networks that send
identical IPv6 RAs once every 3 seconds) works out to ~25mA, which is
5x the cost of idle. Pushing down filters to the hardware so it can
drop the packet without waking up the CPU thus saves a lot of idle
power.

That said, getting BPF to the driver is part of the picture. On the
chipsets we're targeting for APF, we're only seeing 2k-4k of memory
(that's 256-512 BPF instructions) available for filtering code, which
means that BPF might be too large.