netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 1/6] net: skbuff: don't use union for napi_id and sender

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Message-ID: <5704AB1E.2010100@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 6 Apr 2016 14:22:22 +0800
From:	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:	davem@...emloft.net, mst@...hat.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/6] net: skbuff: don't use union for napi_id and
 sender_cpu



On 04/01/2016 09:04 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 12:49 +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 04/01/2016 10:55 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 10:13 +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The problem is we want to support busy polling for tun. This needs
>>>> napi_id to be passed to tun socket by sk_mark_napi_id() during
>>>> tun_net_xmit(). But before reaching this, XPS will set sender_cpu will
>>>> make us can't see correct napi_id.
>>>>
>>> Looks like napi_id should have precedence then ?
>> But then when busy polling is enabled, we may still hit the issue before
>> commit 2bd82484bb4c5db1d5dc983ac7c409b2782e0154? So looks like sometimes
>> (e.g for tun), we need both two fields.
> You did not clearly show me the path you take where both fields would be
> needed. If you expect me to do that, it wont happen.

Right, since tun does not use XPS. But the stacked device on top of tun
does not know this which may still try to set sender_cpu.

>
>>> Only forwarding should allow the field to be cleared to allow XPS to do
>>> its job.
>>>
>>> Maybe skb_sender_cpu_clear() was removed too early (commit
>>> 64d4e3431e686dc37ce388ba531c4c4e866fb141)
>> Not sure I get you, but this will clear napi_id too.
> Only when allowed. In your case it would not be called.

Looks like I miss something, there used to be a skb_sender_cpu_clear()
in br_dev_queue_push_xmit() which will be called before tun_net_xmit().

>
> Some people do not use tun, and want to forward or cook millions of
> packets per second. sk_buff size is critical. 
>
> If busy polling gives you 5 % of performance improvement, but cost
> everyone else a performance decrease, this is a serious problem.
>
> XPS is a sender problem, NAPI is a receiver problem. Fields should be
> shared.
>

How about introduce a napi_id field in softnet_data to record the napi
that is being polled, then sk_mark_napi_id() can fetch napi_id from it
instead of skb?