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Date:	Wed, 18 May 2016 18:23:48 +0800
From:	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>, davem@...emloft.net,
	mst@...hat.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] tuntap: introduce tx skb ring



On 2016年05月18日 16:13, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 15:51:48 +0800
> Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016年05月16日 11:56, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 09:17 +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> We used to queue tx packets in sk_receive_queue, this is less
>>>> efficient since it requires spinlocks to synchronize between producer
>>>> and consumer.
>>> ...
>>>   
>>>>    	struct tun_struct *detached;
>>>> +	/* reader lock */
>>>> +	spinlock_t rlock;
>>>> +	unsigned long tail;
>>>> +	struct tun_desc tx_descs[TUN_RING_SIZE];
>>>> +	/* writer lock */
>>>> +	spinlock_t wlock;
>>>> +	unsigned long head;
>>>>    };
>>>>      
>>> Ok, we had these kind of ideas floating around for many other cases,
>>> like qdisc, UDP or af_packet sockets...
>>>
>>> I believe we should have a common set of helpers, not hidden in
>>> drivers/net/tun.c but in net/core/skb_ring.c or something, with more
>>> flexibility (like the number of slots)
>>>   
>> Yes, this sounds good.
> I agree. It is sad to see everybody is implementing the same thing,
> open coding an array/circular based ring buffer.  This kind of code is
> hard to maintain and get right with barriers etc.  We can achieve the
> same performance with a generic implementation, by inlining the help
> function calls.
>
> I implemented an array based Lock-Free/cmpxchg based queue, that you
> could be inspired by, see:
>   https://github.com/netoptimizer/prototype-kernel/blob/master/kernel/include/linux/alf_queue.h

This looks really interesting, thanks.

>
> The main idea behind my implementation is bulking, to amortize the
> locked cmpxchg operation. You might not need it now, but I expect we
> need it in the future.

Right, we need change APIs which can read or write multiple buffers at 
one time for tun (and for others). I agree this will be a good 
optimization in the future.

>
> You cannot use my alf_queue directly as your "struct tun_desc" is
> larger than one-pointer (which the alf_queue works with).  But it
> should be possible to extend to handle larger "objects".

Yes, and for more generic usage, maybe one more void * is sufficient.

>
>
> Maybe Steven Rostedt have an even better ring queue implementation
> already avail in the kernel?
>

You mean ring buffer in tracing? Not sure, but it looks rather complex 
at first glance.

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