netdev - Re: [PATCH] r8152: Add support for setting MAC to system's Auxiliary MAC address

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Message-Id: <201606022044.42420@pali>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jun 2016 20:44:42 +0200
From:	Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>
To:	Bjørn Mork <bjorn@...k.no>
Cc:	Mario_Limonciello@...l.com, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org,
	hayeswang@...ltek.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	anthony.wong@...onical.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] r8152: Add support for setting MAC to system's Auxiliary MAC address

On Thursday 02 June 2016 20:04:02 Bjørn Mork wrote:
> <Mario_Limonciello@...l.com> writes:
> >> > 2) Track whether this is the first or second USB NIC plugged in.
> >> >  Only offer it
> >> 
> >> on the first NIC detected by r8152.  When the second NIC is
> >> plugged in don't match from ACPI.
> >> 
> >> > There would be a question of what to do if the first NIC is
> >> > removed and
> >> 
> >> added back if it should get the persistent system MAC or not.
> >> 
> >> > I'd say yes, just make sure that only one NIC can have it at a
> >> > time.
> >> 
> >> You are going to get things very complex very quickly if you try
> >> to do this.
> > 
> > It's really not that hard, track a module wide static variable
> > whether the feature is in use.  Track in each device whether the
> > feature was in use.  If it in use, don't assign the next device
> > plugged in via the ACPI string.  If a device is removed that has
> > the feature activated, change the module wide static variable.
> 
> Having the mac address jump around in an arbitrary way like this is
> going to confuse the hell out of your users.  Consider what happens
> if the user docks a laptop with an r8152 usb dongle already plugged
> in... How are you going to explain that the dock gets some other mac
> address in this case? How are you going to explain the difference
> between using an r8152 based dongle and some other ethernet usb
> dongle with your systems?
> 
> Make it behave consistently if you're going to add this.  Which can
> be done by specifically matching the Dell dock (doesn't it have an
> unique Dell device ID?) and ignoring any other r8152 device.  You
> could also choose to set the same mac for all r8152 devices.  Which
> is fine, but will probably confuse many users.
> 
> What you definitely should not do is to change the mac for some
> arbitrary "first" device.  Then you are better off with the userspace
> proposal where you and your users have some chance to implement a
> sensible policy based on e.g. usb port numbers.

This is exactly what I wanted to write, but you were faster :-)

You can connect more Dell docks (with r8152 devices) and more non-Dell 
r8152 devices in random order into Dell laptop. In any case dependent on 
connect and disconnect order, devices always must have exactly same MAC 
addresses. Otherwise there will be problems! It confuse users and also 
admins of networks...

So if kernel approach is chosen then I think there are only two solution 
those satisfy above conditions:

First one is:
* all non-Dell devices have own MAC address
* all Dell devices have (one, same) AUX MAC address

Second one is:
* all devices (Dell and also non-Dell) have own address
* AUX MAC address is never used

So what do you (netdev maintainers) think about it?

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@...il.com

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