netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 0/8] tou: Transports over UDP

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Message-Id: <20160623.034004.1518087003165708123.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:	Thu, 23 Jun 2016 03:40:04 -0400 (EDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	richard.weinberger@...il.com
Cc:	tom@...bertland.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org, kernel-team@...com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/8] tou: Transports over UDP - part I

From: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:15:04 +0200

> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com> wrote:
>> Transports over UDP is intended to encapsulate TCP and other transport
>> protocols directly and securely in UDP.
>>
>> The goal of this work is twofold:
>>
>> 1) Allow applications to run their own transport layer stack (i.e.from
>>    userspace). This eliminates dependencies on the OS (e.g. solves a
>>    major dependency issue for Facebook on clients).
> 
> Facebook on clients would be a Facebook app on mobile devices?
> Does that mean that the Facebook app is so advanced and complicated
> that it needs a special TCP stack?!

No, the TCP stack in the android/iOS/Windows kernel is so out of date
that in order to get even moderately recent TCP features it is
necessary to do this.

That's the point.