netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] perf, events: add non-linear data support for raw records

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Message-ID: <20160713121036.GS30154@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:10:36 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>
Cc:	davem@...emloft.net, alexei.starovoitov@...il.com, tgraf@...g.ch,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] perf, events: add non-linear data support
 for raw records

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:24:13AM +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On 07/13/2016 09:52 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:36:17AM +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> >>This patch adds support for non-linear data on raw records. It means
> >>that for such data, the newly introduced __output_custom() helper will
> >>be used instead of __output_copy(). __output_custom() will invoke
> >>whatever custom callback is passed in via struct perf_raw_record_frag
> >>to extract the data into the ring buffer slot.
> >>
> >>To keep changes in perf_prepare_sample() and in perf_output_sample()
> >>minimal, size/size_head split was added to perf_raw_record that call
> >>sites fill out, so that two extra tests in fast-path can be avoided.
> >>
> >>The few users of raw records are adapted to initialize their size_head
> >>and frag data; no change in behavior for them. Later patch will extend
> >>BPF side with a first user and callback for this facility, future users
> >>could be things like XDP BPF programs (that work on different context
> >>though and would thus have a different callback), etc.
> >
> >Why? What problem are we solving?
> 
> I've tried to summarize it in patch 3/3,

Which is pretty useless if you're staring at this patch.

> This currently has 3 issues we'd like to resolve:

> i) We need two copies instead of just a single one for the skb data.
> The data can be non-linear, see also skb_copy_bits() as an example for
> walking/extracting it,

I'm not familiar enough with the network gunk to be able to read that.
But upto skb_walk_frags() it looks entirely linear to me.

> ii) for static verification reasons, the bpf_skb_load_bytes() helper
> needs to see a constant size on the passed buffer to make sure BPF
> verifier can do its sanity checks on it during verification time, so
> just passing in skb->len (or any other non-constant value) wouldn't
> work, but changing bpf_skb_load_bytes() is also not the real solution
> since we still have two copies we'd like to avoid as well, and

> iii) bpf_skb_load_bytes() is just for rather smaller buffers (e.g.
> headers) since they need to sit on the limited eBPF stack anyway. The
> set would improve the BPF helper to address all 3 at once.

Humm, maybe. Lemme go try and reverse engineer that patch, because I'm
not at all sure wth it's supposed to do, nor am I entirely sure this
clarified things :/