netdev - Re: [PATCH v3] net: ip, diag -- Add diag interface for raw sockets

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Message-ID: <69DF2AA5-F813-476F-BB10-B3CB35656512@intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:18:38 +0000
From:   "Rustad, Mark D" <mark.d.rustad@...el.com>
To:     Greg <gvrose8192@...il.com>
CC:     Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
        Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "dsa@...ulusnetworks.com" <dsa@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        "eric.dumazet@...il.com" <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
        "kuznet@....inr.ac.ru" <kuznet@....inr.ac.ru>,
        "jmorris@...ei.org" <jmorris@...ei.org>,
        "yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org" <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>,
        "kaber@...sh.net" <kaber@...sh.net>,
        "avagin@...nvz.org" <avagin@...nvz.org>,
        "stephen@...workplumber.org" <stephen@...workplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] net: ip, diag -- Add diag interface for raw sockets

Greg <gvrose8192@...il.com> wrote:

> Someday Linux will be a modern OS that just includes IPV6 and forces a
> config option to NOT have it.
>
> That'll be great.  All the IS_ENABLED_(CONFIG_IPV6) scattered everywhere
> is nuts.
>
> </editorial comment>

Better wait until everyone at least *has* IPv6! I have yet to have IPv6  
deployed on any of my employer's networks or get IPv6 service from any ISP  
at my home. When I was at Apple in the 90's I was told that Apple needed  
IPv6 by next year or "we were dead". Well Apple nearly died, but IPv6 had  
nothing to do with that! And I still haven't experienced an IPv6  
deployment! Yeah, I have run it a bit point-to-point to resolve technical  
issues, but that isn't a "deployment" and not very interesting.

As much as we would like things to move faster, much of the world just  
doesn't. Witness the e1000 discussion today for example. Hardware doesn't  
vanish overnight, and I know that my ISP has a network full of CPE that  
doesn't do IPv6, so I'm not expecting their status to change any time soon.

It would be great though.
</pipedream>

--
Mark Rustad, Networking Division, Intel Corporation

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