netdev - Re: [PATCH RFC 1/3] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP

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Message-ID: <20160921182629.7da23564@jkicinski-Precision-T1700>
Date:   Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:26:29 +0100
From:   Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl>
To:     Thomas Graf <tgraf@...g.ch>
Cc:     Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Kernel Team <kernel-team@...com>,
        Tariq Toukan <tariqt@...lanox.com>,
        Brenden Blanco <bblanco@...mgrid.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/3] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:55:45 +0200, Thomas Graf wrote:
> > I am looking at using this for ILA router. The problem I am hitting is
> > that not all packets that we need to translate go through the XDP
> > path. Some would go through the kernel path, some through XDP path but  
> 
> When you say kernel path, what do you mean specifically? One aspect of
> XDP I love is that XDP can act as an acceleration option for existing
> BPF programs attached to cls_bpf. Support for direct packet read and
> write at clsact level have made it straight forward to write programs
> which are compatible or at minimum share a lot of common code. They
> can share data structures, lookup functionality, etc.

My very humble dream was that XDP would be transparently offloaded from
cls_bpf if program was simple enough.  That ship has most likely sailed
because XDP has different abort behaviour.  When possible though, trying
to offload higher-level hooks when the rules don't require access to
full skb would be really cool.