netdev - Re: [RESEND][PATCH v4] cgroup: Use CAP_SYS_RESOURCE to allow a process to migrate other tasks between cgroups

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Message-ID: <CALCETrU5fCWoe0RXfKWuN7Zt9vLvoyHFcZnVqeqiKBpSKrMrxA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 8 Nov 2016 15:51:40 -0800
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
To:     John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net>,
        Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, kafai@...com,
        fw@...len.de, Harald Hoyer <harald@...hat.com>,
        Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sargun Dhillon <sargun@...gun.me>,
        Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org>
Cc:     lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
        Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        "open list:CONTROL GROUP (CGROUP)" <cgroups@...r.kernel.org>,
        Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@...roid.com>,
        Rom Lemarchand <romlem@...roid.com>,
        Colin Cross <ccross@...roid.com>,
        Dmitry Shmidt <dimitrysh@...gle.com>,
        Todd Kjos <tkjos@...gle.com>,
        Christian Poetzsch <christian.potzsch@...tec.com>,
        Amit Pundir <amit.pundir@...aro.org>,
        Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        "Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND][PATCH v4] cgroup: Use CAP_SYS_RESOURCE to allow a
 process to migrate other tasks between cgroups

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 3:28 PM, John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org> wrote:
> This patch adds logic to allows a process to migrate other tasks
> between cgroups if they have CAP_SYS_RESOURCE.
>
> In Android (where this feature originated), the ActivityManager tracks
> various application states (TOP_APP, FOREGROUND, BACKGROUND, SYSTEM,
> etc), and then as applications change states, the SchedPolicy logic
> will migrate the application tasks between different cgroups used
> to control the different application states (for example, there is a
> background cpuset cgroup which can limit background tasks to stay
> on one low-power cpu, and the bg_non_interactive cpuctrl cgroup can
> then further limit those background tasks to a small percentage of
> that one cpu's cpu time).
>
> However, for security reasons, Android doesn't want to make the
> system_server (the process that runs the ActivityManager and
> SchedPolicy logic), run as root. So in the Android common.git
> kernel, they have some logic to allow cgroups to loosen their
> permissions so CAP_SYS_NICE tasks can migrate other tasks between
> cgroups.
>
> I feel the approach taken there overloads CAP_SYS_NICE a bit much
> for non-android environments.
>
> So this patch, as suggested by Michael Kerrisk, simply adds a
> check for CAP_SYS_RESOURCE.
>
> I've tested this with AOSP master, and this seems to work well
> as Zygote and system_server already use CAP_SYS_RESOURCE. I've
> also submitted patches against the android-4.4 kernel to change
> it to use CAP_SYS_RESOURCE, and the Android developers just merged
> it.
>

I hate to say it, but I think I may see a problem.  Current
developments are afoot to make cgroups do more than resource control.
For example, there's Landlock and there's Daniel's ingress/egress
filter thing.  Current cgroup controllers can mostly just DoS their
controlled processes.  These new controllers (or controller-like
things) can exfiltrate data and change semantics.

Does anyone have a security model in mind for these controllers and
the cgroups that they're attached to?  I'm reasonably confident that
CAP_SYS_RESOURCE is not the answer...