netdev - Re: [PATCH 1/2] net: ethernet: nb8800: Do not apply TX delay at MAC level

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Message-ID: <5829BAA6.20905@laposte.net>
Date:   Mon, 14 Nov 2016 14:22:46 +0100
From:   Sebastian Frias <sf84@...oste.net>
To:     Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        Måns Rullgård <mans@...sr.com>
Cc:     "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Mason <slash.tmp@...e.fr>,
        Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] net: ethernet: nb8800: Do not apply TX delay at MAC
 level

On 11/09/2016 06:03 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 11/09/2016 05:02 AM, Sebastian Frias wrote:
>> On 11/04/2016 05:49 PM, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>>>>> But when doing so, both the Atheros 8035 and the Aurora NB8800 drivers
>>>>> will apply the delay.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a better way of dealing with this is that both, PHY and MAC
>>>>> drivers exchange information so that the delay is applied only once.
>>>>
>>>> Exchange what information? The PHY device interface (phydev->interface)
>>>> conveys the needed information for both entities.
>>>
>>> There doesn't seem to be any consensus among the drivers regarding where
>>> the delay should be applied.  Since only a few drivers, MAC or PHY, act
>>> on this property, most combinations still work by chance.  It is common
>>> for boards to set the delay at the PHY using external config pins so no
>>> software setup is required (although I have one Sigma based board that
>>> gets this wrong).  I suspect if drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/genet were
>>> used with one of the four PHY drivers that also set the delay based on
>>> this DT property, things would go wrong.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly, what about a patch like (I can make a formal submission, even
>> merge it with the patch discussed in this thread, consider this a RFC):
> 
> I really don't see a point in doing this when we can just clarify what
> phydev->interface does and already have the knowledge that we need
> without introducing additional flags in the phy driver.
> 

Ok, so who can clarify what "phydev->interface" does, especially in the
context of this discussion?

What happens when a TX delay must be applied and:
  - both the PHY and the MAC support the delay
  - only the PHY supports the delay
  - only the MAC supports the delay

Best regards,

Sebastian