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Message-ID: <bc26f6a5-2865-356f-7f19-f3a316257759@broadcom.com>
Date:   Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:53:28 +0100
From:   Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@...adcom.com>
To:     Kalle Valo <kvalo@...eaurora.org>,
        Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>
Cc:     Ming Lei <ming.lei@...onical.com>,
        "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        David Gnedt <david.gnedt@...izone.at>,
        Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@...to.com>,
        Daniel Wagner <wagi@...om.org>,
        Tony Lindgren <tony@...mide.com>,
        Sebastian Reichel <sre@...nel.org>,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
        Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@...il.com>,
        Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@....fi>,
        Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for
 loading NVS calibration data

On 27-1-2017 13:26, Kalle Valo wrote:
> Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com> writes:
> 
>> On Friday 27 January 2017 13:49:03 Kalle Valo wrote:
>>> Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>> So
>>>>> for those other platforms there will be a delay waiting for user-mode
>>>>> helper to fail, before trying to get nvs file from /lib/firmware.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there will be. But there is no easy way to fix this problem that
>>>> kernel is trying to use default/example NVS data...
>>>
>>> Kernel is doing correctly and requesting NVS data as expected, the
>>> problem here is that linux-firmware claims that the example NVS data is
>>> real calibration data (which it is not). Distros should not use that,
>>> only developers for testing purposes. We should not courage users using
>>> example calibration data.
>>>
>>> The simple fix is to rename the NVS file in linux-firmware to something
>>> like wl1251-nvs.bin.example, no need to workaround this in kernel. If
>>> you send a patch to linux-firmware I'm happy to ack that.
>>
>> I agree with rename and fact that default/example data should not be
>> used.
>>
>> But...
>>
>> 1) Kernel should not read device/model specific data from VFS where
>> are stored not-device-specific files preinstalled by linux
>> distributions.
>>
>> And linux distributions are already putting files into VFS and kernel
>> cannot enforce userspace to not do that (as they are already doing it).
> 
> I'm having problems to understand what you are saying here.

This is a personal opinion. I read it as: /lib/firmware can only contain
files for from linux-firmware.

At least the device-specific vs. non-device-specific does not seem to
hold. The firmware files that we have in the linux-firmware repository
are very device-specific. Unless you mean the 'platform' when talking
about 'device'.

Regards,
Arend

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