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Date:   Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:00:41 -0800
From:   Roopa Prabhu <>
To:     David Ahern <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 0/4] net: ipv6: Improve user experience with
 multipath routes

On 1/27/17, 3:20 PM, David Ahern wrote:
> This series closes a couple of gaps between IPv4 and IPv6 with respect
> to multipath routes:
> 1. IPv4 allows all nexthops of multipath routes to be deleted using just
>    the prefix and length; IPv6 only deletes the first nexthop for the
>    route if only the prefix and length are given.
> 2. IPv4 returns multipath routes encoded in the RTA_MULTIPATH attribute.
>    IPv6 returns a series of routes with the same prefix and length - one
>    for each nexthop. This happens for both dumps and notifications.
> IPv6 does accept RTA_MULTIPATH encoded routes, but installs them as a
> series of routes.
> Patch 2 addresses the first item by allowing IPv6 multipath routes to be
> deleted using just the prefix and length. Patch 3 addresses the second
> allowing IPv6 multipath routes to be returned encoded in the RTA_MULTIPATH.
> Patch 1 adds the NLM_F_APPEND flag to notifications when the flag is
> present in the request. The lack of this flag was noted testing route
> appends and comparing to IPv4.
> Patch 4 prints IPv6 addresses in compressed format when showing route
> replace errors. This was noticed testing REPLACE failures.
> The end result for multipath routes:
> 1. Route Add
>    - one notification with RTA_MULTIPATH attribute
> 2. Route Replace
>    - notification for first route and all siblings that have
>      succeeded. This is needed regardless of success of remaining
>      nexthops to maintain add/delete consistency should a failure
>      happens on the second or following nexthop (ie., need to tell
>      userspace that original route has been replaced and then the
>      failure logic deletes all routes inserted thus far).
> 3. Route Delete
>    - for multipath route only given nexthops are deleted. This path
>      is hit when DELETE contains RTA_MULTIPATH. All other route deletes,
>      all nexthops are deleted for given prefix and length (and any
>      other specs if given)
>    - one notification sent per nexthop deleted. This is unavoidable
>      since IPv6 alllows a single nexthop to be deleted within a multipath
>      route
> 4. Route Appends
>    - IPv6 allows nexthops to be appended to an existing route. In this
>      case one notification is sent per nexthop added

thanks for listing all of these...I think you mentioned this case to me..
but I don't remember now why this notification is
sent per nexthop added. This is an update to an existing multipath route.
so seems like the notification should be a RTM_NEWROUTE with the full RTA_MULTIPATH route
(similar to route add)

Same holds for replace, I know the code might be tricky here...but the route replace
is also an update to an existing multipath route and hence should be a RTM_NEWROUTE
with the full multipath route (RTA_MULTIPATH) that changed (from userspace semantics POV)

I don't have a better solution, but with the above still being different, wondering
if its worth the risk changing the api for just a few notifications.

> Addresses some of the inconsistencies also noted by Roopa at netdev0.1:
> v3
> - removed the need for a user API to opt-in to change. Requiring an
>   API just shifts the difference from same API with different
>   behavior to different API to achieve equivalent behavior
> - route notifications changed to use RTA_MULTIPATH for add and replace
> - upated commit messages and cover letter
> v2
> - fixed locking in patch 1 as noted by DaveM
> - changed user API for patch 2 to require an rtmsg with RTM_F_ALL_NEXTHOPS
>   set in rtm_flags
> - revamped explanation of patch 2 and cover letter
> David Ahern (4):
>   net: ipv6: add NLM_F_APPEND in notifications when applicable
>   net: ipv6: Allow shorthand delete of all nexthops in multipath route
>   net: ipv6: Add support to dump multipath routes via RTA_MULTIPATH
>     attribute
>   net: ipv6: Use compressed IPv6 addresses showing route replace error
>  include/net/ip6_fib.h |   4 +-
>  include/net/netlink.h |   1 +
>  net/ipv6/ip6_fib.c    |  19 +++++-
>  net/ipv6/route.c      | 163 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>  4 files changed, 165 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)

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