netdev - Re: Extending socket timestamping API for NTP

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Message-id: <2DAAE40C-75B6-48F6-B57F-1C72086929B9@me.com>
Date:   Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:45:05 -0800
From:   Denny Page <dennypage@...com>
To:     Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@...hat.com>
Cc:     netdev@...r.kernel.org, Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>,
        Jiri Benc <jbenc@...hat.com>,
        "Keller, Jacob E" <jacob.e.keller@...el.com>,
        Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: Extending socket timestamping API for NTP

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> On Feb 07, 2017, at 06:01, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@...hat.com> wrote:
> 
> 5) new SO_TIMESTAMPING options to get transposed RX timestamps
> 
>   PTP uses preamble RX timestamps, but NTP works with trailer RX
>   timestamps. This means NTP implementations currently need to
>   transpose HW RX timestamps. The calculation requires the link speed
>   and the length of the packet at layer 2. It seems this can be
>   reliably done only using raw sockets. It would be very nice if the
>   kernel could tranpose the timestamps automatically.
> 
>   The existing SOF_TIMESTAMPING_RX_HARDWARE flag could be aliased to
>   SOF_TIMESTAMPING_RX_HARDWARE_PREAMBLE and the new flag could be
>   SOF_TIMESTAMPING_RX_HARDWARE_TRAILER.
> 
>   PTP has a similar problem with SW RX timestamps, which are closer
>   to the trailer timestamps rather than preamble timestamps. A new
>   SOF_TIMESTAMPING_RX_SOFTWARE_PREAMBLE flag could be added for PTP
>   implementations to get transposed timestamps in order to improve
>   accuracy.
> 
> 6) new SO_TIMESTAMPING option to get PHC index with HW timestamps
> 
>   With bridges, bonding and other things it's difficult to determine
>   which PHC timestamped the packet. It would be very useful if the
>   PHC index was provided with each HW timestamp.
> 
>   I'm not sure what would be the best place to put it. I guess the
>   second timespec in scm_timestamping could be reused for this, but
>   that sounds like a gross hack. Do we need to define a new struct?


Miroslav, if #5 were implemented, would #6 still needed?

Denny