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Date:   Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:22:22 -0800
From:   Eric Dumazet <>
To:     Tom Herbert <>
Cc:     Subash Abhinov Kasiviswanathan <>,
        Linux Kernel Network Developers <>,
        Stephen Hemminger <>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] net: Add sysctl to toggle early demux for
 tcp and udp

On Fri, 2017-03-10 at 08:33 -0800, Tom Herbert wrote:

> Okay, now I'm confused. You're saying that when early demux was added
> for IPv6 performance improved, but this patch is allowing early demux
> to be disabled on the basis that it hurts performance for unconnected
> UDP workloads. While it's true that early demux in the case results in
> another UDP lookup, Eric's changes to make it lockless have made that
> lookup very cheap. So we really need numbers to justify this patch.

Fact that the lookup is lockless does not avoid a cache line miss.

Early demux computes a hash based on the 4-tuple, and lookups a hash
table with does not fit in cpu caches.

A cache line miss per packet is expensive, when handling millions of UDP
packets per second, (with millions of 4-tuples)

> Even if the numbers were to show a benefit, we still have the problem
> that this creates a bimodal performance characteristic, e.g. what if
> the work load were 1/2 connected and 1/2 unconnected in real life, or
> what it the user incorrectly guesses the actual workload. Maybe a
> deeper solution to investigate is making early demux work with
> unconnected sockets.

Sure, but forcing all UDP applications to perform IP early demux is not

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