lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:28:37 +0000
From:   Trond Myklebust <trondmy@...marydata.com>
To:     "elena.reshetova@...el.com" <elena.reshetova@...el.com>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "jlayton@...chiereds.net" <jlayton@...chiereds.net>
CC:     "herbert@...dor.apana.org.au" <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "peterz@...radead.org" <peterz@...radead.org>,
        "ralf@...ux-mips.org" <ralf@...ux-mips.org>,
        "linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org>,
        "ishkamiel@...il.com" <ishkamiel@...il.com>,
        "bfields@...ldses.org" <bfields@...ldses.org>,
        "steffen.klassert@...unet.com" <steffen.klassert@...unet.com>,
        "nhorman@...driver.com" <nhorman@...driver.com>,
        "linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        "jreuter@...na.de" <jreuter@...na.de>,
        "keescook@...omium.org" <keescook@...omium.org>,
        "linux-hams@...r.kernel.org" <linux-hams@...r.kernel.org>,
        "dwindsor@...il.com" <dwindsor@...il.com>,
        "zyan@...hat.com" <zyan@...hat.com>,
        "sage@...hat.com" <sage@...hat.com>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "linux-sctp@...r.kernel.org" <linux-sctp@...r.kernel.org>,
        "vyasevich@...il.com" <vyasevich@...il.com>,
        "linux-x25@...r.kernel.org" <linux-x25@...r.kernel.org>,
        "santosh.shilimkar@...cle.com" <santosh.shilimkar@...cle.com>,
        "ceph-devel@...r.kernel.org" <ceph-devel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/23] net, sunrpc: convert rpc_cred.cr_count from
 atomic_t to refcount_t

On Fri, 2017-03-17 at 09:02 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-03-17 at 12:50 +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > On Fri, 2017-03-17 at 14:10 +0200, Elena Reshetova wrote:
> > > refcount_t type and corresponding API should be
> > > used instead of atomic_t when the variable is used as
> > > a reference counter. This allows to avoid accidental
> > > refcounter overflows that might lead to use-after-free
> > > situations.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@...el.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Hans Liljestrand <ishkamiel@...il.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: David Windsor <dwindsor@...il.com>
> > > ---
> > >  include/linux/sunrpc/auth.h |  8 ++++----
> > >  net/sunrpc/auth.c           | 12 ++++++------
> > >  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/sunrpc/auth.h
> > > b/include/linux/sunrpc/auth.h
> > > index b1bc62b..bd36e0b 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/sunrpc/auth.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/sunrpc/auth.h
> > > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > >  #include <linux/sunrpc/msg_prot.h>
> > >  #include <linux/sunrpc/xdr.h>
> > >  
> > > -#include <linux/atomic.h>
> > > +#include <linux/refcount.h>
> > >  #include <linux/rcupdate.h>
> > >  #include <linux/uidgid.h>
> > >  #include <linux/utsname.h>
> > > @@ -68,7 +68,7 @@ struct rpc_cred {
> > >  #endif
> > >  	unsigned long		cr_expire;	/* when
> > > to gc
> > > */
> > >  	unsigned long		cr_flags;	/* various
> > > flags */
> > > -	atomic_t		cr_count;	/* ref count */
> > > +	refcount_t		cr_count;	/* ref count
> > > */
> > > 
> > 
> > NACK. That's going to be hitting
> > WARN_ONCE(!refcount_inc_not_zero(r),
> > "refcount_t: increment on 0; use-after-free.\n") like there's no
> > tomorrow...
> > 
> > Please stop with these automated conversions. They are going to
> > cause a
> > lot more bugs than they fix.
> > 
> 
> Agreed. These patchsets are touching places where we've already
> banged
> out most of the refcounting bugs. I'm against doing large scale
> conversions like this without a damned good reason.
> 
> I think it may be best to do this sort of thing in a more piecemeal
> fashion. Pick a subsystem or two and do the conversions there to
> prove
> that they're better than what we have. If the subsystem already has
> problems with its refcounting, then so much the better. Point to bugs
> that this new infrastructure helped find.
> 
> Encourage people to adopt your new infrastructure as new refcounted
> objects are introduced into the kernel. You might even consider a LWN
> article about this.
> 
> Eventually we'll get around to changing existing code to use it, once
> there is a sufficient advantage to doing so. Most likely when we're
> reworking the code for other reasons, or when we're chasing some
> horrid
> refcounting bug and think that this might help find it.

The main issue is that this "refcount_t" implementation appears to be
assuming that there is one and only one model for refcounts (the one
where a value of "0" means "free me immediately").

The kernel has a plethora of object caching implementations where this
is simply not the case; the dcache is a prime example, and this cache
is another. In both these implementation, the atomic_t variable is
being used more as a semaphore-style lock that prevents freeing of the
object while it is in active use as opposed to being freeable, but
cached. This is why these automated conversions are a nuisance and a
source of bugs.

-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, PrimaryData
trond.myklebust@...marydata.com

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ