netdev - Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH net-next v6 04/11] landlock: Add LSM hooks related to filesystem

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Message-ID: <ccad825b-7a58-e499-e51b-bd7c98581afe@schaufler-ca.com>
Date:   Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:58:17 -0700
From:   Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>
To:     Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
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Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH net-next v6 04/11] landlock: Add
 LSM hooks related to filesystem

On 4/19/2017 3:03 PM, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> On 19/04/2017 01:40, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/18/2017 3:44 PM, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
>>>> On 19/04/2017 00:17, Kees Cook wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> wrote:
>>>>>> +void __init landlock_add_hooks(void)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +       pr_info("landlock: Version %u", LANDLOCK_VERSION);
>>>>>> +       landlock_add_hooks_fs();
>>>>>> +       security_add_hooks(NULL, 0, "landlock");
>>>>>> +       bpf_register_prog_type(&bpf_landlock_type);
>>>>> I'm confused by the separation of hook registration here. The call to
>>>>> security_add_hooks is with count=0 is especially weird. Why isn't this
>>>>> just a single call with security_add_hooks(landlock_hooks,
>>>>> ARRAY_SIZE(landlock_hooks), "landlock")?
>>>> Yes, this is ugly with the new security_add_hooks() with three arguments
>>>> but I wanted to split the hooks definition in multiple files.
>>> Why? I'll buy a good argument, but there are dangers in
>>> allowing multiple calls to security_add_hooks().
> I prefer to have one file per hook "family" (e.g. filesystem, network,
> ptrace…). This reduce the mess with all the included files (needed for
> LSM hook argument types) and make the files easier to read, understand
> and maintain.

Yeah, there's that tradeoff and it really is a matter
of taste I suppose.

>>>> The current security_add_hooks() use lsm_append(lsm, &lsm_names) which
>>>> is not exported. Unfortunately, calling multiple security_add_hooks()
>>>> with the same LSM name would register multiple names for the same LSM…
>>>> Is it OK if I modify this function to not add duplicated entries?
>>> It may seem absurd, but it's conceivable that a module might
>>> have two hooks it wants called. My example is a module that
>>> counts the number of times SELinux denies a process access to
>>> things (which needs to be called before and after SELinux in
>>> order to detect denials) and takes "appropriate action" if
>>> too many denials occur. It would be weird, wonky and hackish,
>>> but that never stopped anybody before.
> Right, but now, with the new lsm_append(), module names are concatenated
> ("%s,%s") in the lsm_names variable. It would be nice to not pollute
> this string with multiple time the same module name.

All it would take is a check that the module name
isn't already on the list. It's a trivial change.

>> If ends up being sane and clear, I'm fine with allowing multiple calls.
>>
>> -Kees
>>