netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 05/12] net: dsa: Add support for learning FDB through notification

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Message-ID: <87r2xoross.fsf@weeman.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
Date:   Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:59:31 -0400
From:   Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com>
To:     Arkadi Sharshevsky <arkadis@...lanox.com>,
        Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     davem@...emloft.net, jiri@...nulli.us, ivecera@...hat.com,
        andrew@...n.ch, Woojung.Huh@...rochip.com,
        stephen@...workplumber.org, mlxsw@...lanox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 05/12] net: dsa: Add support for learning FDB through notification

Hi Arkadi,

Arkadi Sharshevsky <arkadis@...lanox.com> writes:

>>> +		err = dsa_port_fdb_add(p->dp, fdb_info->addr, fdb_info->vid);
>>> +		if (err) {
>>> +			netdev_dbg(dev, "fdb add failed err=%d\n", err);
>>> +			break;
>>> +		}
>>> +		call_switchdev_notifiers(SWITCHDEV_FDB_OFFLOADED, dev,
>>> +					 &fdb_info->info);
>>> +		break;
>>> +
>>> +	case SWITCHDEV_FDB_DEL_TO_DEVICE:
>>> +		fdb_info = &switchdev_work->fdb_info;
>>> +		err = dsa_port_fdb_del(p->dp, fdb_info->addr, fdb_info->vid);
>>> +		if (err)
>>> +			netdev_dbg(dev, "fdb del failed err=%d\n", err);
>> 
>> OK I must have missed from the off-list discussion why we are not
>> calling the switchdev notifier here?
>
> We do not agree on it actually, that is why it was moved to the list.
> I think that delete should succeed, you should retry until succession.
>
> The deletion is done under spinlock in the bridge so you cannot block,
> thus delete cannot fail due to hardware failure. Calling it here doesn't
> make sense because the bridge probably already deleted this FDB.

So as we discussed, the problem here is that if dsa_port_fdb_del fails
for some probable reasons (MDIO timeout, weak GPIO lines, etc.), Linux
bridge will delete the entry in software, dumping bridge fdb will show
nothing, but the entry would still be programmed in hardware and the
network can thus be inconsistent, unsupposedly switching frames.

IMHO the correct way for bridge to use the notification chain is to make
SWITCHDEV_FDB_DEL_TO_DEVICE symmetrical to SWITCHDEV_FDB_ADD_TO_DEVICE:
if an entry has been marked as offloaded, bridge must mark the entry as
to-be-deleted and do not delete the software entry until the driver
notifies back the successful deletion.

If that is hardly feasible due to some bridge limitations, we must
explain this in a comment and use something more explosive than a simple
netdev_dbg to warn the user about the broken network setup...

Thanks,

        Vivien