netdev - Re: [RFC] switchdev: clarify ndo_get_phys_port

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Message-ID: <CAJ3xEMhUs0DfMioSU=gqR_hEs=ZFjUM1bA3nA9LwtTgH93ygDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:30:44 +0300
From:   Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@...il.com>
To:     Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl>
Cc:     Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
        Linux Netdev List <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@...lanox.com>,
        Michael Chan <michael.chan@...adcom.com>,
        Sathya Perla <sathya.perla@...adcom.com>,
        Simon Horman <simon.horman@...ronome.com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] switchdev: clarify ndo_get_phys_port_name() formats

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:23:17 +0300, Or Gerlitz wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 07:48:40 +0200, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>
>> >> I think it would make sense if the driver would just fill-up a struct in
>> >> the ndo call and core would generate the string.
>>
>> > I do like the idea of core generating the string.  I have a temptation
>> > to try to involve devlink in this somehow, since port id and split info
>> > is already available there.  Perhaps that would only overcomplicate
>> > things.
>>
>> > The other question is: can we remove the option to generate an arbitrary
>> > string completely?  I think Or and mlx5 folks may object since it would
>> > mean mlx5 VF repr names would change.
>>
>> What we have today is the representor driver instance setting the VF index as
>> the of phys port name and we're telling users to have this sort of udev rule:
>>
>> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add",
>> ATTR{phys_switch_id}=="<phys_switch_id>", \ ATTR{phys_port_name}!="",
>> NAME="$PF_NIC$attr{phys_port_name}"
>
> Example names generated by this rule would be pfnic_0, pfnic_1 for vf
> representors 0 and 1?

YES

>> that has affiliation to  the PF where this VF belongs. AFAIK this
>> model/assumption is now under push to
>> higher level (open stack), so lets see if/what we want to change here
>> w.r.t to sriov offloading drivers.
>>
>> I would opt for an approach where the value returned by the kernel is
>> the minimal possible and
>> user-space has flexibility to further orchestrate that with udev
>> rules. I wasn't fully clear on Jakub's suggestion
>> which parts must come from the kernel. Do we have any length
>> limitation for the phys port name?
>
> Looks like the limit today is IFNAMSIZ.  I'm in favor of leaving the
> flexibility to the userspace, why I suggested adding the pf%d or
> pf%dvf%d to the name is that I don't think we have any other way today
> of telling whether representor is for a physical port, VF or PF.

> If I understand mlx5 code, you're not reporting port ids for physical
> ports so presence of the name already implies it's a VF but in case you

yes, currently in our model the PF serves as the uplink representor
when running in offloads mode.

> want to add port splitting support, for example, reporting the name on
> physical ports will become more of a necessity.

> If we adopt Jiri's suggestion of returning structured data it will be
> very easy to give user space type and indexes separately, but we should
> probably still return the string for backwards compatibility.

I am not still clear how the structured data would look like