netdev - Re: [pull request][net-next 0/3] Mellanox, mlx5 GRE tunnel offloads

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Message-ID: <CALzJLG--t8VLs1GiRRVfejenB=XgpLiJHnHC+eokQ4=kwj9hGw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sat, 2 Sep 2017 21:11:07 -0700
From:   Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@....mellanox.co.il>
To:     Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com>
Cc:     Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
        Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...lanox.com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Linux Netdev List <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [pull request][net-next 0/3] Mellanox, mlx5 GRE tunnel offloads

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Hannes Frederic Sowa
> <hannes@...essinduktion.org> wrote:
>> Hi Saeed,
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017, at 01:01, Saeed Mahameed wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Hannes Frederic Sowa
>>> <hannes@...essinduktion.org> wrote:
>>> > Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...lanox.com> writes:
>>> >
>>> >> The first patch from Gal and Ariel provides the mlx5 driver support for
>>> >> ConnectX capability to perform IP version identification and matching in
>>> >> order to distinguish between IPv4 and IPv6 without the need to specify the
>>> >> encapsulation type, thus perform RSS in MPLS automatically without
>>> >> specifying MPLS ethertyoe. This patch will also serve for inner GRE IPv4/6
>>> >> classification for inner GRE RSS.
>>> >
>>> > I don't think this is legal at all or did I misunderstood something?
>>> >
>>> > <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3032#section-2.2>
>>>
>>> It seems you misunderstood the cover letter.  The HW will still
>>> identify MPLS (IPv4/IPv6) packets using a new bit we specify in the HW
>>> steering rules rather than adding new specific rules with  {MPLS
>>> ethertype} X {IPv4,IPv6} to classify MPLS IPv{4,6} traffic, Same
>>> functionality a better and general way to approach it.
>>> Bottom line the hardware is capable of processing MPLS headers and
>>> perform RSS on the inner packet (IPv4/6) without the need of the
>>> driver to provide precise steering MPLS rules.
>>
>> Sorry, I think I am still confused.
>>
>> I just want to make sure that you don't use the first nibble after the
>> mpls bottom of stack label in any way as an indicator if that is an IPv4
>> or IPv6 packet by default. It can be anything. The forward equivalence
>> class tells the stack which protocol you see.
>>
>> If you match on the first nibble behind the MPLS bottom of stack label
>> the '4' or '6' respectively could be part of a MAC address with its
>> first nibble being 4 or 6, because the particular pseudowire is EoMPLS
>> and uses no control world.
>>
>> I wanted to mention it, because with addition of e.g. VPLS this could
>> cause problems down the road and should at least be controllable? It is
>> probably better to use Entropy Labels in future.
>>
> Or just use IPv6 with flow label for RSS (or MPLS/UDP, GRE/UDP if you
> prefer) then all this protocol specific DPI for RSS just goes away ;-)

Hi Tom,

How does MPLS/UDP or GRE/UDP RSS works without protocol specific DPI ?
unlike vxlan those protocols are not over UDP and you can't just play
with the outer header udp src port, or do you ?

Can you elaborate ?

Thanks,
Saeed.

>
> Tom
>
>> Thanks,
>> Hannes