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Message-ID: <CA+55aFwa+1HiQo3aX9SZb21s7zQRqc5B40wgMMdsrYG0MJLknQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sat, 6 Jan 2018 17:20:52 -0800
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
Cc:     Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arch@...r.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Alan Cox <alan@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/18] x86, barrier: stop speculation for failed access_ok

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com> wrote:
>
> I assume if we put this in uaccess_begin() we also need audit for
> paths that use access_ok but don't do on to call uaccess_begin()? A
> quick glance shows a few places where we are open coding the stac().
> Perhaps land the lfence in stac() directly?

Yeah, we should put it in uaccess_begin(), and in the actual user
accessor helpers that do stac. Some of them probably should be changed
to use uaccess_begin() instead while at it.

One question for the CPU people: do we actually care and need to do
this for things that might *write* to something? The speculative write
obviously is killed, but does it perhaps bring in a cacheline even
when killed?

Because maybe we don't need the lfence in put_user(), only in get_user()?

               Linus

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