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Message-ID: <20180122182737.GA18218@1wt.eu>
Date:   Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:27:37 +0100
From:   Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
To:     Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:     Ben Greear <greearb@...delatech.com>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TCP many-connection regression between 4.7 and 4.13 kernels.

Hi Eric,

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:16:06AM -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-01-22 at 09:28 -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
> > My test case is to have 6 processes each create 5000 TCP IPv4 connections to each other
> > on a system with 16GB RAM and send slow-speed data.  This works fine on a 4.7 kernel, but
> > will not work at all on a 4.13.  The 4.13 first complains about running out of tcp memory,
> > but even after forcing those values higher, the max connections we can get is around 15k.
> > 
> > Both kernels have my out-of-tree patches applied, so it is possible it is my fault
> > at this point.
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to what this might be caused by, or if it is fixed in more recent kernels?
> > 
> > I will start bisecting in the meantime...
> > 
> 
> Hi Ben
> 
> Unfortunately I have no idea.
> 
> Are you using loopback flows, or have I misunderstood you ?
> 
> How loopback connections can be slow-speed ?

A few quick points : I have not noticed this on 4.9, which we use with
pretty satisfying performance (typically around 100k conn/s). However
during some recent tests I did around the meltdown fixes on 4.15, I
noticed a high connect() or bind() cost to find a local port when
running on the loopback, that I didn't have the time to compare to
older kernels. However, strace clearly showed that bind() (or connect()
if bind was not used) could take as much as 2-3 ms as source ports were
filling up.

To be clear, it was just a quick observation and anything could be wrong
there, including my tests. I'm just saying this in case it matches anything
Ben has observed. I can try to get more info if that helps, but it could be
a different case.

Cheers,
Willy

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