netdev - Re: AF_PACKET V4/AF_XDP userspace API questions

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Message-ID: <CAC_iWjLGfazVT87375c+O=Hng4bGc-a45nh+3f-5vzeh_gM1pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:09:21 +0200
From:   Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>
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        magnus.karlsson@...el.com, alexander.h.duyck@...el.com,
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Cc:     Francois Ozog <francois.ozog@...aro.org>,
        MykytaI Iziumtsev <mykyta.iziumtsev@...aro.org>,
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Subject: Re: AF_PACKET V4/AF_XDP userspace API questions

Really sorry for the noise, mail is in lkml properly now.
I failed at marking it as plain text.

You can disregard this one.

Regards
Ilias

On 30 January 2018 at 10:02, Ilias Apalodimas
<ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org> wrote:
> We've noticed 3 different hardware approaches in receiving payloads
>
> 1. Host driver needs to pre-load descriptor ring with addresses of RAM
> buffers to write arriving data.
> The "standard" functionality for most NICs is (in little detail) fetch the
> descriptor, write the payload to host RAM and update the descriptor
> accordingly.
> So for these NICs, buffer addresses are provided in RX descriptors (RX
> descriptors are two-way communication entity).
> This translates to "1 ring + 1 buffer array" model, or the packet array
> model in short.
>
> 2. There's a category of NICs (Chelsio and Netcope are the ones we are aware
> of) that split that into two one-way entities:
> One to communicate buffer addresses from host to NIC and one to communicate
> packets/payloads from NIC to host.
> So the driver provides a set of unstructured, contiguous memory areas to the
> NIC, the NIC decides where to place the packets in memory and updates the
> descriptors accordingly (the descriptor ring is not pre-loaded with any data
> and the NIC is free to write the packet anywhere in the provided contiguous
> memory).
> This is a "1 ring + 1 set of areas" model, or the tape model in short.
>
> 3. The last hardware approach we are aware of is NICs that you provide
> multiple array buffers (128, 256, 1500, 9000 etc).
> The NIC then decides in which array slot to place the packet depending on
> it's size.
> This is "1 ring + X buffer arrays" model or the multi packet array in short.
>
> Is memory schemes 2 and 3 supported? If not do you plan on supporting them?
>
> Regards
> Ilias