netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 0/2] virtio-net: re enable XDP

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Date:   Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:16:01 +0100
From:   Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
To:     Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
Cc:     mst@...hat.com, virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        john.fastabend@...il.com,
        Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        brouer@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/2] virtio-net: re enable XDP_REDIRECT for
 mergeable buffer

On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 21:15:36 +0800
Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:

> On 2018年03月01日 18:35, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:23:37 +0800
> > Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 2018年03月01日 17:10, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:  
> >>> On Thu,  1 Mar 2018 11:19:03 +0800
> >>> Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>> This series tries to re-enable XDP_REDIRECT for mergeable buffer which
> >>>> was removed since commit 7324f5399b06 ("virtio_net: disable
> >>>> XDP_REDIRECT in receive_mergeable() case"). Main concerns are:
> >>>>
> >>>> - not enough tailroom was reserved which breaks cpumap  
> >>> To address this at a more fundamental level, I would suggest that we/you
> >>> instead extend XDP to know it's buffers "frame" size/end.  (The
> >>> assumption use to be, xdp_buff->data_hard_start + PAGE_SIZE, but
> >>> ixgbe+virtio_net broke that assumption).
> >>>
> >>> It should actually be fairly easy to implement:
> >>>    * Simply extend xdp_buff with a "data_hard_end" pointer.  
> >> Right, and then cpumap can warn and drop packets with insufficient
> >> tailroom.
> >>
> >> But it should be a patch on top of this I think.  
> > Hmmm, not really.  If we/you instead fix the issue of XDP doesn't know
> > the end/size of the frame, then we don't need this mixed XDP
> > generic/native code path mixing.  
> 
> I know this but I'm still a little bit confused. According to the commit 
> log of 7324f5399b06 ("virtio_net: disable XDP_REDIRECT in 
> receive_mergeable() case"), you said:
> 
> """
>      The longer explaination is that receive_mergeable() tries to
>      work-around and satisfy these XDP requiresments e.g. by having a
>      function xdp_linearize_page() that allocates and memcpy RX buffers
>      around (in case packet is scattered across multiple rx buffers).  This
>      does currently satisfy XDP_PASS, XDP_DROP and XDP_TX (but only because
>      we have not implemented bpf_xdp_adjust_tail yet).
> """
> 
> So I consider the tailroom is a must for the (future) tail adjustment.

That is true, BUT implementing the "data_hard_end" extension is a
pre-requisite.  It will also be to catch the issue of too little
tail-room if/when implementing bpf_xdp_adjust_tail().

It is of-cause a "nice-to-have", to fix this virtio_net driver's
receive_mergeable() call to have enough tail-room, but I don't see it
as a solution to the fundamental problem.


> > You could re-enable native redirect, and push the responsibility to
> > cpumap for detecting this too-small frame "missing tailroom" (and avoid
> > crashing...). (If we really want to support this, cpumap could fallback
> > to dev_alloc_skb, and handle it gracefully).
> >  
> 
> Right but it will be slower than build_skb().

True, but bad argument in this context, as you are already using a
similar function call napi_alloc_skb().  And it will be even slower to
call generic-XDP code path.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer