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Message-ID: <CALCETrX3AQXNqxXLN3aoEaiUHi6bN39qNJ-A3i_tN=WS_w6N6w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sun, 11 Mar 2018 02:17:24 +0000
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
To:     Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...com>
Cc:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...il.com>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
        Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        kernel-team <kernel-team@...com>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] modules: allow modprobe load regular elf binaries

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:43 AM, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...com> wrote:
> On 3/9/18 11:37 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...com>
>>> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 10:50:49 -0800
>>>
>>>> On 3/9/18 10:23 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It might not be totally crazy to back it by tmpfs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> interesting. how do you propose to do it?
>>>> Something like:
>>>> - create /umh_module_tempxxx dir
>>>> - mount tmpfs there
>>>> - copy elf into it and exec it?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the idea is that it's an internal tmpfs mount that only
>>> the kernel has access too.
>>
>>
>> That's what I was imagining.  There's precedent.  For example, there's
>> a very short piece of code that does it in
>> drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gemfs.c.
>
>
> I can do "monkey see monkey do" approach which will look like:
> type = get_fs_type("tmpfs");
> fs = kern_mount(type);
>
> /* for each request_umh("foo") */
> file = shmem_file_setup_with_mnt(fs, "umh_foo");
> do {
>   pagecache_write_begin(file,...);
>   memcpy()
>   pagecache_write_end();
> } while (umh_elf_size);
> do_execve_file(file);
> fput(file);
>
> while keeping fs mounted forever?
> is there better way?
>

Nice!  I'm definitely not a pagecache expert, but it looks generally
sane.  Once the thing is actually functional, we can bang on it, and
I'm sure that linux-mm will have some suggestions to tidy it up.

As for the actual lifetime of the filesystem, I think it should be
mounted once and never unmounted.  Whenever it gains a second user,
the whole thing can be moved to mm/ or lib/ and all the users can
share the same mount.

Minor caveat: I would arrange the code a bit differently, like this:

static (or extern) unsigned char __initdata the_blob[];
static struct file *umh_blob_file;

static int __init my_module_init_function(void)
{
 /* for each request_umh("foo") */
 umh_blob_file = shmem_file_setup_with_mnt(fs, "umh_foo");
 do {
   pagecache_write_begin(umh_file,...);
   memcpy()
   pagecache_write_end();
 } while (umh_elf_size);

 /* the_blob is implicitly freed after this returns */
}

and then actually use the struct file later on.  If and when you're
sure you're not going to spawn another copy, you can fput() it.  This
way the memory becomes swappable immediately on load.

As for request_module() vs request_module_umh(), my advice would be to
write the code and then see what interface makes sense.  I wouldn't be
surprised if it ends up making more sense to keep all of this entirely
independent from the module system.

P.S. I suspect that, before this hits a release, someone's going to
have to fiddle with the LSM hooks in do_execve() a bit to make sure
that LSM unconditionally approves this type of umh program.  Otherwise
there might be pointless failures on some more locked down
configurations.  But that can wait until it's more final and the
security folks review the code.

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