netdev - Re: Problem with bridge (mcast-to-ucast + hairpin) and Broadcom's 802.11f in their FullMAC fw

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Message-ID: <20180312114017.GM2470@otheros>
Date:   Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:40:17 +0100
From:   Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@...3.blue>
To:     Rafał Miłecki <zajec5@...il.com>
Cc:     Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        Felix Fietkau <nbd@....name>,
        Arend van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@...adcom.com>,
        Franky Lin <franky.lin@...adcom.com>,
        Hante Meuleman <hante.meuleman@...adcom.com>,
        Chi-Hsien Lin <chi-hsien.lin@...ress.com>,
        Wright Feng <wright.feng@...ress.com>,
        Pieter-Paul Giesberts <pieter-paul.giesberts@...adcom.com>,
        Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        bridge@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        "linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:BROADCOM BRCM80211 IEEE802.11n WIRELESS DRIVER
        <brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@...adcom.com>," 
        <brcm80211-dev-list@...ress.com>
Subject: Re: Problem with bridge (mcast-to-ucast + hairpin) and Broadcom's
 802.11f in their FullMAC fw

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:46:45AM +0100, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
> On 27 February 2018 at 18:05, Stephen Hemminger
[...]
> > ebtables is your friend in dealing with weird and broken devices.
> 
> It may be weird, not sure if actually broken. Anyway I'd like to have
> some generic solution instead of telling every user to use ebtables to
> workaround the problem.

I agree that a "broken by default" in OpenWRT/LEDE for a variety
of Broadcom devices is not really acceptable.

Technically we could teach netifd in OpenWRT/LEDE to configure
ebtables accordingly, at least for a list of affected devices,
so that users would not have to. However, as ebtables is not
managed by the fw3 in OpenWRT/LEDE, that would probably interfer
with user provided ebtables rules and scripts...


> That said I think we still should look for a solution for existing
> firmwares. I guess it may takes months to years to never to release
> new firmwares for all supported chipsets.

Hm, we could change the default in OpenWRT/LEDE for
multicast-to-unicast (or more precisely bridge hairpinning) to
disabled again for now.