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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 00:04:26 +0200 From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch> To: Ran Shalit <ranshalit@...il.com> Cc: netdev@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: Q: force netif ON even when there is no real link ? > By saying "mac driver", I mean Ethernet driver with fixed phy. The fixed-phy implements the usual PHY API. So the MAC driver just sees a PHY which has a fixed speed, and is up. Andrew